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Dev Blog: U and I made some changes

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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#81 - 2013-05-31 00:08:57 UTC
CCP Karkur wrote:
It blinks: "He's dead, Jim." It disappears: "She got away, captain.
Oooooh yes!

As for the rest of the changes: All good ones, every single one of them.
Thanks Karkur for making EvE life better one UI change at a time.

ISD Ezwal Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Cerebus5
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2013-05-31 00:23:16 UTC
I would like it if you could move yourself into other squads in flat list mode for fleets. Currently you can only move around in fleets when it is in hierarchy mode, which is a hassle, especially when there is a big fleet.
Starbuck Keikira
#83 - 2013-05-31 00:47:12 UTC
EXCELLENT WORK! Thank you.

One request you may have heard before: Can we get something on the Fleet menu to display what bonuses are currently being applied to the fleet? It's all manual effort now, carrying the 1, etc. Please?

Big smile
Texty
State War Academy
Caldari State
#84 - 2013-05-31 02:53:17 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Texty wrote:
Love all the changes :)

However, if I am understanding correctly, the page up/down feature is usable only with the Page Up/Down keys? I'd really like to be able to remap that functionality to some other keys.

Yeah... that's what those buttons do, like Home goes to front/top and End goes to, well, end.

Oh, I see. Currently my Page Up/Down keys are remapped to Select Next/Previous Target and I use them quite a lot. I guess I'd have to remap them to Home/End keys or something, but keys placed at the edge are much easier to "feel" and more forgiving than keys in the middle of a cluster to be honest, so a little inconvenience for me here.

Or, I'd really love it if we could assign 12 shortcuts for each item in the target list (so I don't have to use Select Next/Previous Target anymore.) Having little numbers from 1 to 12 show on the icons would help in that case. Yeah, I'm a keyboard guy.

Talking about the target list/icons, I love the blinking change (I've already checked it at Singularity.)

Previously, if I was about to deactivate any module that I was applying to a target (like tractor beams. this is mainly when I'm salvaging) via those little icons that appear under the target icons, and any of the target icons disappear (by salvage completion, being destroyed etc.), the icons would just instantly shift to their "next" positions, resulting in my deactivating the wrong module that had slipped into the place where I was trying to click.

This new blinking now gives me a warning that the icons are about to move, so I can either wait a second for the movement to complete, or go for it and try to click on it really fast :) (or, could you make it so that the target icons "lock" while the mouse pointer is hovering over them and the little module icons? Like how it works in the Overview and Chat Member Lists?)
AutumnWind1983
Reboot Required
#85 - 2013-05-31 03:28:53 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
There's literally nothing in there I don't like.
Awesome stuff, in other words.

However I would like to mention: on TQ currently I still have the issue where scrolling through the "my fleet" tab in hierarchy mode, if someone moves squads or becomes squad commander, joins fleet, or a whole bunch of other stuff like that, my scroll position is reset to the top. It's quite frustrating.

To top, whaaaaat? That should have been fixed. It should always go back to where it was before. Any special repro case, or does this always happen?


Happens every time.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#86 - 2013-05-31 04:11:32 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
CCP karkur wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
There's literally nothing in there I don't like.
Awesome stuff, in other words.

However I would like to mention: on TQ currently I still have the issue where scrolling through the "my fleet" tab in hierarchy mode, if someone moves squads or becomes squad commander, joins fleet, or a whole bunch of other stuff like that, my scroll position is reset to the top. It's quite frustrating.

To top, whaaaaat? That should have been fixed. It should always go back to where it was before. Any special repro case, or does this always happen?

Actually I feel bad for saying this, but I was tired when I wrote it and I don't quite remember what the issue was. Either the window kept snapping to the top or previously collapsed squads kept expanding when people moved into them. I'll have to be more aware of this next fleet I join and I'll file a bug report when I know for sure.

It's one of these two, I just can't remember which.

Sorry for being so vague and unhelpful. What?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#87 - 2013-05-31 06:14:21 UTC
Nice stuff. Thanks!

How many years to wait until sortable local?
Konstantin Panfilov
Alpha Company
#88 - 2013-05-31 07:36:10 UTC
Quote:
Then go to the Local chat channel and carefully scroll down the list. In Odyssey you will be able to just select the list and use the Page Up and Page Down keys to scroll real fast through that list and see at a glance if there's anyone "super friendly" there. And by "super friendly" I mean your mortal enemies if the quotes were confusing you...

Only scroll?
Jita Local may scrolled button ~ 20 sec, mouse ~ 21 sec. What is better?

Local pilot list give more information on "super frendly" when is sorted as:
1. standing
* war
* most bad gay
* bad gay
* neutral gay
* good gay
* very good gay
2. name pilot / dust

Local list may not sorting less 20-30 pilots.


P.S. Wath list right menu is good. Thanks.
Bastet Isu
Bedtime Stories
#89 - 2013-05-31 08:01:45 UTC
thumbs up for this changes!Big smile

but what would be one of my suggestions since you love drag&drop, it would be awesome to be able to drag&drop links from one chat window into the other one without having to move one channel window out of the group.
something like, if you drag a link and move it to the channel discription of a 2nd channel, this one opens automatically and you can drop it in the type field, or better if you could just drag a link and drop it on the channel description of another channel and then it´s automatically in the text field of the other channel.

its not a big deal, but as you said, we love the small things that makes our life easier.

cheers
Fellblade
Old Comrades
#90 - 2013-05-31 08:29:23 UTC
With all the crazy sorting of lists and such now going on, could we get consistent sorting of the Corporation Locations and Personal Locations sublists when adding a bookmark to one of the folders?

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2013-05-31 10:31:06 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Home goes to front/top and End goes to, well, end.



TIL what these buttons do. i am 24 and have been living in a symbiotic relationship with various computers since i was 14
Swidgen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#92 - 2013-05-31 10:57:01 UTC
A very nice set of changes!
Magic Crisp
Amarrian Micro Devices
#93 - 2013-05-31 11:13:30 UTC
Quote:
If you ever use the Notepad you will have noticed that the order of the notes is very random. For some reason you guys thought it should be in some sensible order, like alphabetical or something clever like that. After thinking about it for a while, I finally started to agree with you so I changed it so the notes are sorted in alphabetical order.


Awesome. Please apply the ordering also to the save-bookmark dialog, at the folder selection. That seems to be completely random :)

On fleet member options on watchlist:
PLEASE add keep lock,range and orbit to that list. Every fleet has the anchor watchlisted, and they are usually using the watchlist for setting up anchoring.

Also, that has a bug. When someone on the watchlist changes ship on grid, his damage notification bars will disappear. To make it reappear, you have to either turn off/on the notification bars, or remove/readd the said pilot to the watchlist.

And while you're at it, please visit the mailing list management windows. Try to selectively remove a few people from an ML's access list, for an axample those, who lost blue standing, or not anymore members of your alliance. (you don't even have rclicks defined in said lists).

Otherwise, nice commits :)
Yun Furiku
Greed LLC
#94 - 2013-05-31 11:49:49 UTC
All glory to CCP Karkur for fixing things that actually matter: small things that annoy playerbase.

Now, how many clones of Karkur have you planned to have by the end of year? Blink
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#95 - 2013-05-31 11:54:02 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
It's really great to see how much you like those changes Big smile
When you people are so nice, I just want to do more of those little changes for you Smile

Thank you all for your comments. I have commented on a few of them (where I had anything to say), but have read them all.
If you have any more questions (especially about those changes I made) or comments, let's hear them! Smile


It's great to see such devotion to the little things in the UI, and great communication with the fans.

I've gone through and liked every one of your posts in this thread and encourage everyone else to do so.

Like all the things!

(PS - I really like the suggestion someone made about sorting local by standings or corp or.... )

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Gallbunny
Doomheim
#96 - 2013-05-31 11:59:27 UTC
Can you PLEASE change the maintenance drone drop down menu option from ''engage target'' to ''repair target''.

This is a huge issue, I bet there are many Logi pilots that double check they didn't pack warriors by accident XD.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#97 - 2013-05-31 12:22:52 UTC
Karkur,

since you and the team are full of awesome, and masters of expand/collapse mechanics- could you check if you can revert the current drone window behaviour?

Launched groups currently open collapsed, and returned groups expand, which makes zero sense and is a major hurt in da butts. Pilot needs to see the group that is currently in space for the damage indicators, but the drones in bay are irrelevant since there is no damage info visible for them.

This would really help drone pilots until 2039 when we get a complete drone UI revamp :)

.
Substanz Cloud
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#98 - 2013-05-31 12:31:35 UTC
hi, I have not had time to read all 97 posts. so I do not know if it has already given this proposal.

Is it possible to add the creation of folders in the contact-groups?

hundreds of bad contacts I would like group to Corps. So I can see if players of a corp are online.

That would be awesome!
Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#99 - 2013-05-31 12:57:59 UTC
Excellent as always, Sporkholder karkur!

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Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#100 - 2013-05-31 13:07:07 UTC
Wery nice changes CCP Karkur.

Thaaaank you. Smile