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Any chance for virus strenght bonus to Force Recon Ships? That would create a nice progression from T1 Frigate>T2Frigate>T2 Cruiser>T3 Cruiser as Force Recon is somewhere in the middle of price range and in terms of versatility. Slot layout is nice for exploration + ability to fit cov ops.

Pilgrim used to be a popular ship for profession sites with the old sites.. Falcon looks like a good replacement after the removal of the rats.

This might be because you are encountering a known issue where the descriptions are misleading.
So the following happens below:

The Memetic Algorithm Bank rig has a description:
"This ship modification is designed to increase the efficiency of a ship's hacking modules."

This is correct as it only affects the hacking (Data) Analyzers, not the Relic Analyzers but it should display:
"This ship modification is designed to increase the efficiency of a ship's Data modules."


The Emission Scope Sharpener has the description:
"This ship modification is designed to increase the efficiency of a ship's analyzer modules."

This is incorrect as it only affects the Relic Analyzers and should be:
"This ship modification is designed to increase the efficiency of a ship's Relic modules."

This should be fixed before release.
Hope this helps.

Should we be bug reporting the sites that still spawn rats on failed hacks, or are you guys just working down a list to remove them?

Right now if you are successful you get loot, if you are not I will be destroyed with no loot at all. With what you are proposing if you are successful you get loot, if you fail you still get loot. How is that not having your cake and eating it too?

Forget about "if we get to iterate," the hacking game and loot scatter should not go on live until you figure out:
1. That on one likes the loot spew, and
2. That the mini-game, to be enjoyable, needs to involve much more strategy and much less random clicks.

You are basically putting something that is only a neat prototype straight on to live, and after 10 years I'd except CCP to know not to do that. After the first wave of trial I think you are going to get far less people doing these sites than even do them now. The only reason I am going to scan them down is so I can cloak in them and wait for people to kill.

The hacking minigame UI seems to have issues with UI scaling.

I have my UI scaling set to 90% and the minigame UI overflows out of the window.

Screen: http://i.imgur.com/oPHegZ9.png

I have read through all of both of these threads, with a mounting sense of horror about the loot spew feature. As soon as I read about the loot spew mechanic, I thought it was unrealistic, magical, and wrong for EVE. Kahns captures much of what I feel about it here, so I'll just quote his:


Let me add a few points about "realism". A game should be internally consistent, and also consistent with real reality with the exception of magical or scifi elements within the game's reality. The loot spew mechanic fails massively on both of these criteria.

Kahns points out some of the internal inconsistency. Let me add to that: in no other part of EVE is loot collection in any way a twitch game, or significantly time-limited. Loot just sits there, be it in a wreck or a can. Yes, wrecks eventually evaporate and cans eventually will be despawned. But these things are never time-sensitive on the scale of seconds, and they never involve fast mousing. Fast mousing is necessary in combat, to gain access to rewards. It is never required for the reward itself. I think it is this aspect of it that many player find feels wrong: they've just succeeded at the ostensible challenge, only to find an even harder challenge. Is "exploration" or "treasure finding" supposed to be a thinking game or a twitch game? In real reality, at least, it is a thinking game.

Now let me turn to real reality. This is another way in which loot spew fails, at least for me. It just makes no sense because there is no real world analog at all. In the real world, loot (like pretty much all other physical objects) just sits there, just like all current EVE loot. Certainly the only thing likely to spew loot out in the real world would be an explosion. But since you don't do loot-spew for loot on exploding ships (and please don't get any ideas), it is inconsistent to do it to loot coming out of much-less-explodey computer systems and ancient relics. Furthermore, there is almost nothing in the real world that is analogous to radically time-sensitive moving loot. Perhaps a fiery explosion?

And this is doubly true in computers. A file is either there, or not; it never self-erases, it does not burn up if you copy it. Nor, especially, does a file copy itself onto a physical object, erase itself, then light itself on fire and shoot out of the computer into nearby space. It's just ludicrous. And yet that is what is evidently supposed to be happening in EVE.

You are ruining my fictional-world immersion on every loot-spew. Suddenly I am not in new Eden, grabbing hard-won loot. I am staring a screen watching something stupid and nonsensical.

Look, I grasp the idea behind the mechanic. It is to reward small group play because you believe only social groups stay in EVE long term. Social group == long term == subscriptions == money. I realize why you want the mechanic. It's a perfectly good reason. It's just a bad mechanic.

Why is it bad? Human irrationality: we feel differently about things lost (which connote wrongdoing) and bonuses (which connote success). It is functionally equivalent to either give 2x loot and then take away half from the soloer, as to give 1x loot but then double it for non-soloers. But the two things feel entirely different: in the first, the soloer is punished, in the second, the group is rewarded. It's the same reason why stores have sales, but never surcharges, even though economically the two are equivalent.

Loot spew comes across to the solo player (which, currently at least, I guess that almost all explorers are) as a hose. I feel you ought to balance the desirability of rewarding small groups against the undesirability of putting in a mechanic that 98% of the players feel as a punishment. Find a way to increase loot for groups, not decrease it for soloers.

If it is not too late, I'd suggest that you put off rewarding groups for a later iteration, where it should be done via cooperative play within the minigame. (I.e.: if two+ players click on the same node at the same time (within, say, 1 second of each other), they get better results.) Lower the loot amounts back to current levels, and get rid of the spew.

http://i.imgur.com/pQ94uKh.jpg
Holy **** CCP, are you serious? What's all this ridiculous particulate crap? It's killing my graphics and it's here for no reason. I also have GPU particles turned off, but it seems you're just ignoring that setting with every new little cloud and smoke, etc.

Will defect it when I get in tomorrow morning.

Might want to check the Tutorial also. The scaling code also gets forgotten there allot.