Ships & Modules

Toons?

Are you on Shrooms? Its going from 8 turrets to 6, then getting a larger bonus, but its turret DPS is lower than it was.
Its drone DPS is higher, but in the end, it is far from a considerable damage buff.

6*1.5 = 9
8*1.25 = 10
Getting a bit more drone DPS doesn't make up for effectively losing a large turret.

While Mega got an awesome design revamp making it really bad ass looking, got a buff to it's dps to compensate the loss of the drone bay but in the end and from my point of view:

-you're gaining a little applied bonus dmg but loosing drones flexibility: 5 T2 sentry or Heavies out can fear more than one monkey for a reason, to add insult to injury Rails on it atm seem to be the worst choice ever to make (cap wise), with sentries/heavies at least you could compensate a bit of dps but now you just can't, once cap dry the only thing any idiot 5 miles around will tell you is "use thorium and double cap booster"...those definitively don't understand the interest of using it over a Rokh is the theoretical extra dps, or will ever understand what a fleet of hundreds or thousands of ships means/requires.

-gain of a low slot for tank or all gank, some even think about strapping a cap module to compensate a bad thinking about this cap issue... loosing tank and an utility high that could keep tackle away and offer you the ability to gtfo or target back (yeah BS's don't like that much ECM drones but those hate smartbombs)

-needless to say the cap recharge buffs do not compensate the cap stress just by firing?-add a second cap injector if you have long fights and you have no room for full tackle which this ship is also about just to run your guns mwd tackle and eventually some tank...
And it's forgetting on purpose the cargo capacity the ammo/cap charges number required and obvious neuts (Amarr are getting a specialized neuting battleship better than bhaalgorn so you can expect to see those in numbers in fleets or almost everywhere).

-add an active tank if you're just roaming alone in low and you just have an old Hyperion with same issues, if you roam in null just forget it and don't even think about it unless your toon is named Garmon and some other exceptional players with at least 1 boosting alt some friends billions in fits and often cloaky trucks around for cap boosters and whatnot

-forget forum theoretical numbers claiming it can fire for an hour before it gets cap dry, on paper maybe, on practice will not.

Now it has no chance at all to GTFOby killing drones with a smarbomb or use a heavy neut + lost tank for a little DPS improvement, when you commit with one of these my feeling is that this will most probably end bad.
For a hull getting a huge price jump it's performances do not seem in line at all.

It will succeed, of course it will, on paper these changes seem good but once you start putting all together suddenly looks less good and rather close to bad. I'd say status quo in between old and new version.
Good players always find ways to succeed, have enough experience to make whatever work, but in the end and overall I'm not expecting this ship to perform as I could expect a short range battleship to perform.

A gate/station games king got a lifting to keep being a gate/station games king, nothing really spectacular or what was asked by many many players for years now.

*Personal wish: move that low to mid
At least I'll be able to shield buffer fit it in fleets and actually really get the crap out of stuff before it caps out just by running its guns.


Edit: for small pvp engagements yes it got better but this is not what most players were asking, they were asking for it to become a useful ship for fleets and instead we've got a muscled puking Domi relying on sentries to be a fleet ship...search and point out the mistake in CCP reasoning if you can, I'm quite tired of these Gallente silly nerfs/changes for a couple years.

Acht, This was probably most confused post ever.



In a fleet of hunderds or thousands of ships:
Your drones do not matter.
Your cap needs are taken care of by logistics.
Your interest of using Mega over a Rokh is Mega being an armor rail platform suitable for armor fleets.



All valid if you are in small gang. Let me introduce you the new Gallente Battleship of choice for small gangs: Hyperion.



Now this is the most confusing part. No. Mega did NOT get better for small scale pvp engagements. It lost utility slot and drones. Mega is no longer the small gang battleship it was. Hyperion took that role now. With Mega, you guys finally get an armor fleet battleship that can have a chance to compete with amarrian counterparts on larger fleets.

Yeah, it's pretty much useless in smaller gangs, not like battleships were that useful in them before the rebalancing. The sad thing is that it Rise didn't design it to work in fleets, Domi was supposed to be the fleet ship, and Mega an... "attack battleship".

Because a slow, lightly tanked BS microwarping around with poor cap life sounded like a really good idea.

Yeah this quite accurate, Mega is not designed for small gang solo pvp, not really for small engagements up to best 15 ships and certainly not for fleets.
Main problem imho comes first from that cap silliness issues Mega always had and gets stronger now at the engagements scale he's supposed to work on (which one by the way??).
In short you warp in light your guns and perma run your capbooster (you know, neuting Armagedons soon to come) until you have none left then leave your light drones dps and wait for your ship to blow up, the simple fact your ship is not cap stable just by firing high dps ammo and running tank (read 1 hardener) is beyond silly

Yet we see abaddons used in fleets even though they are also not cap stable while using their guns.

No matter what playing field CCP gives us, the playing field will be level. We can all buy the same weapons and train the same skills.

Those who succeed where others will fail have seen the opportunity where others saw the limitation. They will play to the new strengths where others stare blindly at the new weakness. They will be creative and enjoy solving the puzzle while others become frustrated by the shifting ground and the need to learn something new.

If you haven't been playing for long then take this bit of advice. Be flexible. Leverage what you know. Experiment. This game is intended to be a sand box and CCP (thankfully) regularly pulls a rake through it. Learn to see that as a good thing and you'll enjoy the game more.

I think he's starting to see that this thread was a mistake.

Do we know if the Vindicator is getting changed? Please don't change my Vindi