EVE General Discussion

Better yet it's bullshit. I guess the flood of Dust trials don't like loosing probes and don't want to find the reconnect button to get them back?

You may have a point there, maybe there is more to this than just easymode for new probers

This game has had usability issues for so long that people are mistaking tedium for challenge

That's simply not true at all, in fact that's simply a weak dodge.

The issue here is that, more and more, CCP is automating the game to the point where people can't make mistakes (like jumping into low sec of jump out of a system without losing the probes you forgot to recall).

Little by little , CCP is cocooning players of what is supposed to be a "cold, harsh" game into big cotton straight jackets. Probably in the silly belief that increase accessibility with increase player retention.

I think they are wrong. I think games like EVE have to eventually make a choice between the weak-sauce masses that would quit a game that had no "safeties" (and let a guy die in a fire because he was stupid and jumped into low sec) and the hard core ...well. CORE type players that would see these "tedious" things as CHALLENGES to be overcome.

Eventually all this coddling (which EVE has survived without for ten years) is going to provoke unintended consequences that the guys at CCP (and it's stakeholders) aren't going to care for. When you take away a players ability to make mistakes, you take away his need to innovate solutions too, and those innovative solutions to in-game problems and mistakes are at the core of the emergent gameplay that makes EVE special.

CCP is slowly and unwittingly turning EVE into...every other MMO on the market.

Wasn't even aware of this feature until now.

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EvE is the one game that should not get dumbed down. If you're absent-minded enough to forget your probes, you should deal with the consequences.

CCP, stop spoiling us. Please remember most EvE players are not 12.

You think?

I bet the OP is also complaing that Tengu's can no longer enter low level DED complexes.
It's horrible that Newbies get a bit more of a chance and some help right?

are you serious? auto recalling probes makes the game "easy"?

you are weird.



see, this is a good point. instead of claiming that the game is now somehow "easier" miton is pointing out a loss of functionality due to this change.


same thing happened with the probe changes, people complained that the game was being made somehow "easier" and among all the tears a very real complaint about how now Combat probes couldn't be split into two groups of 4 to watch 2 gates got buried.

Guess HTFU it doesn't apply anymore for CCP and their quite frankly less than impressive ceo.
If they spent less time trying to attract the CoD crowd with DUST and more
time on the playerbase that got them this far, people like me might reconsider re-subscribing.

The impression atm is that the only thing CCP understands is the bottom line and that line is money. Another
impression is that the only reason they are making dust and WoD because they [i.e top leaders of CCP] don't really want
the eve community. Its a constant thorn in their side.

Auto recall probes in general is just a stupid idea with little thought put into it which is indicative of a lot of these scanning changes. Its a shame because there are some good steps forward in the right direction, but then a couple more steps backwards.

Why do probes instantly recall when jumping from system to system, but when you recall and deploy probes normally they take a few seconds to warp to the desired location. Surely the confirmation box we currently have is enough of a warning.

I'm starting to feel seriously annoyed when I think of how much things are being dumbed down here. People who forget to recall probes when jumping system deserve to be ridiculed and laughed at and then they wont do it again, not given an easy mode by CCP so they don't get their poor little princess sunflower feelings hurt. CCP seriously what are you doing here?!