Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Oh well, more Tempests for me and the rest of us to enjoy then. :) Even Nikon has given it her seal of approval for now so it must be alright.

Personally I would have made the Typhoon the Minmatar Combat vessel. Its big heavy hull just looks like it would fit that role well. Then perhaps make the Tempest the fast attack missile boat. But in the end I'm quite happy with the way things turned out I guess. Only time will tell if the changes really work.

yes you see them at nearly every gate .......

....... scanning for smugglers -.-

To those that don't underrate the Tempest. It's always been a good ship. It has 2 DPS bonuses and two utility highs for remote reps. We used them to great effect in RR gangs. That said I'd rather CCP turned it into a missile boat and kept the Typhoon as a split weapon system ship.

If they did this I'd like my large projectile sp back please, another missile boat for Minmi, you must be joking.

You haven't seen the cruise changes I take it?

I'm not even sure you should cosinder his opinion in anyway. Much like the TEST guy ranting that ISK making is too hard.

Lol. E-Uni...

Artiphoon really? I mean the typhoon could do it, because it can do anything, but that doesn't make it a good idea. And typhoon has no tank WHAT? Typhoon is a ******* BRICK when it wants to be. And its drone damage is great too. 125 bandwidth with utility room means it can always launch the optimal flight.

Edit: okay this post was kind of mean-spirited, but you uni guys have gotta get out of high sec and blob war fare. You guys should really have a PvP class called 50 slashers/merlins/incursus/condor, which basically covers how to make a decent ship for 3 mil, and go into lowsec and fight til you use up all 50. Would teach way more in a shorter time than those PvP classes...

Hah, it's ok we will deal with it, quick and easy with no pain. ;)

But yes, it is kind of strange the whole shield tanking on some of the missile ships and not others. Particularly the fact that the mael can shield tank instead of the Typhoon. It seems to be intended though as was mentioned a while back in this thread and there was no comment from CCP.

Typhoon:
The new Typhoon looks good and although I'll be sad to see the split bonuses go it makes sense that since Minmatar now have a missile boat in every class that a dedicated one for the battleship is needed as well and since Phoon already used them it made sense. But why the reduced drone bay? You already took our projectile capacity away, why the drones too? And why the large signature radius? It seems to me like you are just making a small raven. I don't want a Raven, if I did I would have trained Caldari. If you make it a missile boat make it a minmatar missile boat, with higher speed and reduced sig, while keeping the ability to use it's heavy drones to supplement it's CQC fights or sentries for LR engagements.

Tempest: The Tempest has always been overshadowed by the megathron and now it's being shuffled into, in CCP's words, "a heavy battlecruiser". I don't want a better tanked tornado, I want a battleship sized projectile gunboat that can shield or armor tank and that's fast, as is Minmatar's wont that can counter Megathrons and Apocs. What you're doing, CCP, is not going to make the Tempest more viable in PVP unless you drastically reduce it's cost, it's going to push it into obscurity so that it won't be used in ANY environment of EVE. Give it a 10% bonus to Large Projectile Turret damage like the Hyperion is getting with it's reduction to 6 turrets, the Tempest has always had 6 turrets so why is it not receiving the same benefit? A faster Tempest, with the same sig it has now, and the extra damage would make it stand out from the Maelstrom since right now they have near-identical dps with the tempest having much less tank. High slots for utility is nice but I think Tempest only needs one, the second should go to mid slots to provide more power for shield tankers and extra utility for armor tankers. This would allow the Tempest to actually be a viable replacement for the maelstrom in all theatres of combat.

Maelstrom: I really like the Maelstrom, but it's rep bonus (as many before me have pointed out) languishes in fleet combat. What someone suggested earlier in the forum was a really good idea. Reduce the rep bonus from 7.5% to 5% and change it from just local reps to also include remote repair. So let's say an Osprey is repping my Maelstrom in PVP fleet combat and I have minmatar battleship 4. Now instead of repping his bonused amount, he would rep 20% additional because of my bonus and if this is considered OP then diminish the marginal return like you have done with resists on the Rokh and Abaddon. This change would make the Maelstrom and Hyperion viable brawlers in PVP and not just alpha snipers lingering on the edge of fleets with an unused racial bonuses.

My thoughts, receive them as you will but consider them nonetheless.

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