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Jukebox Petition - Bring it back!

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zbaaca
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#401 - 2013-05-09 03:26:10 UTC
+1 . bring it back

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Vega Umbranox
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#402 - 2013-05-09 04:14:12 UTC
CCP RealX wrote:
Hi,

I want to thank you all for taking time to give this matter you attention. We (meaning the CCP sound department) are monitoring this thread closely and take all opinions into consideration. I hope you don't think we made this decision lightly.

First, some back story.

As many of you know that used the jukebox it was quite buggy and we got a lot of negative feedback regarding its use, it didn't measure up to other media players, it didn't support this or that codec etc. The jukebox works as a plugin to our audio engine (Audio Kinetics WWise) and was based on a now deprecated Microsoft MP3 decoder that was used as an example on how to build plugins for the WWise engine.

As mentioned in the blog these were the biggest issues that factored into the removal the jukebox. We believe we made the right decision but that is for EVE's community to decide. If we however made the wrong decision and you decide that we will put the jukebox back into the game, it will happen at the cost of adding new game-play related features. And I ask you all to weigh that into your thoughts on the matter. The jukebox needs a lot of love, and if we will give it all the love that it needs it will take development time away from game-play related features. If you decide that there is more value for you in the jukebox than there is in new features we will shift our focus back to the jukebox.

Regards,

RealX




1st im gonna start with. wtf is wrong with u all!? dont make ccp divert direction away from actual cool/needed things because u are all to lazy and stubborn to quickly press alt tab to change the song on itunes. seriously what is wrong with u is it that hard to alt tab!? i liked the jukebox sure but it wasnt THAT bad to lose it and i would MUCH rather them not WASTE there time on putting it back at the expense of.. what? possibly new content, drone update, new ships, issues fixed all for u not wanting to press alt tab for 2 seconds!? idiots!
Vespin Uchonela
Surreptitious Technologies
Shadow Ultimatum
#403 - 2013-05-09 12:44:32 UTC
Huge +1 for me - bring the brilliant jukebox tool back to the game!...

I currently have the Music in-game turned off... therefore i have to load up YouTube to listen to the songs i use to have playing.... and tbh i don't want to have my browser running in the background all the time! let alone switching between them to replay them (yes i do have a playlist in YouTube with the songs but that's not the point). Big smile
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#404 - 2013-05-10 01:06:10 UTC
This isn't the removal of a feature, it's the removal of a bug!

Oh wait...
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#405 - 2013-05-10 10:07:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Shereza
Honestly, I'm going to sound "elitist" by saying this, but the only people who really need a jukebox feature or have any justification beyond personal desire for asking for it are people who play EVE on PCs or laptops so pathetically underpowered that they can't run any sort of MP3 player application in the background. For them there is a legitimate need, at least of sorts, for this sort of option, but just what percentage of players are in that boat? Given how CCP has been updating the graphics and forcing players to update their hardware if it isn't up to snuff (presuming they wish to continue playing) I don't see that percentage as being very high, especially not with some of the low-"cost" options I've seen for playing music over the years.

There are 71 music files unpacked in EVE\res\audio\Jukebox that you can load up and play in whatever third-party application you so desire. That application will have all of your favorite features and designs that CCP might not or will not implement in whatever Jukebox in-game application they might design. You can update and/or install the necessary codecs if they don't come already built in to your player, and you have as much control over the application as it gives you. That's usually more control than CCP will likely provide with a new jukebox and definitely more than the old one had.

While I think it would be nice to be able to have more control over the in-game music selection (especially those awesome songs played during combat missions) I honestly do not believe that CCP should spend development resources on recreating the proverbial wheel here. If I had a choice between them redoing the Jukebox or tweaking the audio engine itself to provide better quality sound with a lower CPU hit I'll pick the latter option every day of the week and twice every other day.
DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
#406 - 2013-05-10 10:31:58 UTC
I know several people who jammed to that thing daily, and they're good friends of mine. If they loved it, it needs to come back, mhmk.

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Veaon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#407 - 2013-05-13 16:39:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Veaon
So my account was inactive whenever this change happened and although I do miss a little the ability to play some of my favorite eve tracks whenever I desire I really can't be the only one that really likes the new system? Before it I very very rarely listened to EVE music (only every now and then for some nostalgia) and now I listen to it all the time. I'm even enjoying it much more now that it fits more with the area I am in and what I'm doing. Perhaps its because I like to solo pvp so it doesn't have to fight with comms? I'm finding its really helping my immersion.
Akkya
Doomheim
#408 - 2013-05-17 11:57:00 UTC
+1 signed

- need to add my DnB, Ambient and Dub Techno sounds to my EvE experience
Michiko Misaka
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#409 - 2013-05-19 13:41:44 UTC
Signed, because it was there already but taken away, and we cba to alttab all the time just to change tracks etc. since it is easdier to do ingame WHILE keeping tabs on the current situation of your ingame assets.
Caljiav Ocanon
The Holy Rollers
#410 - 2013-05-19 13:47:23 UTC
I don't support the removal of features in games.

Revamping, iterating, etc is okay though.

Devlin Shardo
Phoenix Connection
#411 - 2013-05-23 00:21:22 UTC
Want it back. Big smile
Jen Ann Tonique
Doomheim
#412 - 2013-05-23 00:44:33 UTC
DataRunner Attor wrote:
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
What you seem to be missing here is this:

A bunch of stuff.




I support this post, and this post declares that jukebox stays dead, thank you.



If SCS software can have an in game music player for a truck driving game...then CCP should be able to do it no sweat. SCS is tiny compared to CCP. It must not be very hard or expensive to do it if they did it.

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Nott Patro
Doomheim
#413 - 2013-05-23 12:39:57 UTC
Signed.
DarkestHeart
ItsMeCorp
#414 - 2013-05-24 12:16:02 UTC
Updating the first post now!
DarkestHeart
ItsMeCorp
#415 - 2013-05-24 12:32:50 UTC
Hello everyone,

I have updated the first post. I have been away for a few weeks due to illness but am now back again.

We have reached 206 signatures.

Now we need to focus this to the attention of CCP and the CSM. I'm unsure how to show this thread to CCP as I doubt they will look at it willingly without it being brought to their attenion - anyone have any ideas?

I will create a petition and try and contact their support team. If you know or know how to contact some CSM members then please make them aware and show them this thread.
Inna Cristiana
GucciGang
#416 - 2013-05-24 15:44:58 UTC
Bring back in new updated awesome form!
Sacraty
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#417 - 2013-05-26 17:05:23 UTC
count me in. account is back in 2008 total 3 years of playtime with JUKEBOX!!! please eve bring it back!
Yurgan Dwarfknight
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#418 - 2013-05-26 23:12:11 UTC
Bring back the jukebox! One of the things I love about eve is the immersion in the game . I love that I don't have to alt tab to look things up on the web as I can just use the ingame browser. Having the jukebox in game with the ability to load your own music files was much appreciated. The idea of placing it back in the game taking time away from developing other parts is ridiculous. The code is already there it was already done. Just place it back in the game. You don't have to fix all the bugs in it to put it back. People were enjoying it as it was. It people didn't like the bugs well using it is optional.
Chihiro Chugakusei
Fortune Hunters - Navy Operations
#419 - 2013-05-27 00:12:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Chihiro Chugakusei
+1.
I too was shocked and unhappy when I realised that they had removed the jukebox. It just hasnt been the same since.

Keep it up, +1

Anele Sunder
One Nerd Army
#420 - 2013-05-27 04:50:42 UTC
It'd be nice to have as an option