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EVE Launcher update on May 21, 2013

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mr ed thehouseofed
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2141 - 2013-05-22 10:14:25 UTC
err i have not had any problems with launcher or game Shocked what am i doing wrong Oops.

i want a eve pinball machine...  confirming  CCP Cognac is best cognac

Zxeries
Aim High
#2142 - 2013-05-22 10:14:31 UTC
i dont understand what was broke with the old client and launcher that needed 'fixed'. PI is the reason i maintain a 3rd account and the huge pain this created makes me not want to deal with the hassle of logging in to that account. it lapses here in a few weeks and i will probably let it do so... i have 45-60min when i get home from work to play and now 10 or so is going to be wasted just logging in.


i'll put it simply... logging in is now worse than all the clicking and hauling i have to do to do pi everyday.
arria Auscent
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2143 - 2013-05-22 10:15:20 UTC
validating client for 10 mins is bad
bring back the old launcher
Gijs Peerlings
Interstellar General Solutions
#2144 - 2013-05-22 10:20:27 UTC
I think the launher is good, but for multi-client use it sucks. Also I loved the login screen/music, please bring that back :(
RankOutsider
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#2145 - 2013-05-22 10:22:25 UTC
So I log in today and find that the cache settings on all 21 of my characters are reset, gone, poof, history.

Who signed this change off?

I've been in software dev for 30+ years so I would assume you have something that looks like an industry standard panel of cross functional people on a change control board who review all changes and sign them off? If so please give each one of them a written warning and place it on their employment records.

I can't believe a software dev company who has made the mistakes you've made in the past wouldn't at least think before shooting your foot off, in fact do you have any ******* feet left?
Angelus Ryan
One Ronin
#2146 - 2013-05-22 10:25:26 UTC
Gijs Peerlings wrote:
I think the launher is good, but for multi-client use it sucks. Also I loved the login screen/music, please bring that back :(


So where is it good ? Cool
Galmas
United System's Commonwealth
#2147 - 2013-05-22 10:25:46 UTC
Ein0r Niiminen wrote:
The new patcher looks pretty decent. But why do you remove this awesome login screen? I am a rather new Eve player and compared with other games, Eve had the best looking Login Screen until now, next to WoW.

It was so cool Sad
Doesnt it have any production value anymore?
Right now it feels as if i would log in to some random Softnyx or OGPlanet game when i use this launcher and not onto an incredible space mmo. Right now it feels as if i have to deal with a boring launcher, to get a boring long loading bar until i arrive in a very dull character select. And after all of that i am finally able to play. With the login screen i had at least a really cool, animated space station rock thingy with a cool "connecting" voice, which never ceased to amaze me how good this game can look.

And since i dont have that much clue of programming: What is the reasoning behind this if not money? Is it really so expensive to create such a login screen and maintain it?
I hope the login screen will come back with the upcoming update Sad



Totally agree.

While it is not really game breaking changes in mechanics or anything like that still CCP wastes a lot of potential for showing of the awesomeness of the game right from the launch of it.

I remember how this whole useless launcher project was justified some time ago. someone from CCP was saying that "everyone uses a launcher for their games so we have to do it too". To hear that from ccp, running a mmo for more than a decade now makes me pretty sad. Something like "everyone runs these useless launchers but we will not do that for the eve client, we will keep our awesome log-in screen and the cool news section of the character selection to do what others need a launcher for" would have been the right approach.

Now with the latest "improvement" to the log-in process that launcher becomes a real pain in sensible parts of my body. Before it was just a little annoyance.

Sorry CCP Devs, i totally don't like what you do in that regard. And i am massively afraid already of the newly invented radial menus nobody needs... They will also take a lot of energy out of the community until they are reverted back far enough to not be too big of an annoyance anymore. I can already clearly sense that happening soon. Sorry guys. Great game otherwise : )

DragonBlue1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2148 - 2013-05-22 10:26:39 UTC
this launcher is laughable ... check the error message i`m geting :P ....

Account EVE-SSO-CONNECTION has been disabled
Last Login: 2011.01.01 12:49
Number of Visits: 54
reason: Account subscription expired!

Subscribe Now and continue playing!

my subscription is paid for at least another month .... if i login without the launcher i can connect no problem
arria Auscent
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2149 - 2013-05-22 10:31:10 UTC
all my settings are gone
all my browser bookmarks too

what idiot thought this was a good idea?

never heard 'IF IT'S NOT BROKEN, DONT FIX IT'?
Regam Voss
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2150 - 2013-05-22 10:33:11 UTC
Why in the hell did your update reset all my settings?
Skorpynekomimi
#2151 - 2013-05-22 10:36:47 UTC
Regam Voss wrote:
Why in the hell did your update reset all my settings?


BECAUSE WINDOWS IS WHY.

Confirming that restarting launcher and client fixes stuff.

Economic PVP

RankOutsider
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#2152 - 2013-05-22 10:39:28 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
Regam Voss wrote:
Why in the hell did your update reset all my settings?


BECAUSE WINDOWS IS WHY.

Confirming that restarting launcher and client fixes stuff.



It didn't for me I have to manually run bin/exefile.exe to get my cache setting back, which just goes to show the launcher is a waste of time
Kblackjack54
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2153 - 2013-05-22 10:40:56 UTC
Ok, before CCP kill the facility and for those of you that have apparently LOST there Usernames from the log in screen of this amazing new and improved yet utterly rubbish IMO, log in facility, here is a simple tip to recover this information quickly and without drama.

C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\EVE\bin

Copy paste that line into your windows search and press enter.

this will open the BIN file for you, perfectly safe to do and it contains the 'ExeFile' which you need to locate, highlighted by the EVE symbol.

Once you have found it, right click it and select 'Create Shortcut' this will appear at the bottom of the same page, usual shortcut identification of a curving blue arrow overlaying the EVE logo.

Drag and drop this onto your desktop, NOT THE ORIGINAL, close the explorer and then simply click that shortcut, the Original utterly useless and totally insignificant EVE launcher will open for you along with all your User names neatly stored as before.

Currently you can still use this launcher to open your clients without a problem, been doing it since the patch, hence avoiding all the drama of the past 24 hours, Suggest you also open the New and improved utterly perfect launcher currently offered by CCP's perfectionist Devs and copy your information over in the order you want them, failure to do this correctly will result in your listing being fixed in that order so think about which toons you use first and most and load them in order from there.

CCP Devs will probably read this and instantly either block it or remove the described facility so my guess is it will be time dependent.
arria Auscent
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2154 - 2013-05-22 10:42:09 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
Regam Voss wrote:
Why in the hell did your update reset all my settings?


BECAUSE WINDOWS IS WHY.

Confirming that restarting launcher and client fixes stuff.



can you confirm relaunching launcher wont take 20 mins to validate like it did the first time?
Dograzor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2155 - 2013-05-22 10:42:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Dograzor
Dear CCP,

Your core product income relies on people buying multiple accounts in order to play this game effectively. You are well aware of this as you have designed in game features to correspond to this model. A few examples of these features where multiple accounts shine the best are: industrial/mining/hauling/scout/super/cyno alts. You are very well aware of this as you even offer the power of two package, thus encouraging people to get alts.

So the the question remains, why screw the people that provide you with large quantaties of profit?

Why change (and break) something that wasn't broken?

Ah well.. innovation through complication then it seems. Logging multiple accounts... sigh.

Yours truly <3
pussnheels
Viziam
#2156 - 2013-05-22 10:44:27 UTC
dear CCP
your new launcher is unwanted and makes it difficult to multibox so it means a huge makority of your customers think it is bad

By the way did you actually tested this out fbefore launching
don't think so

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire

Xyon Xero
Doomheim
#2157 - 2013-05-22 10:49:58 UTC
Wrecked all my settings aswell and none of these fixes are working...

I cba fiddling around with files to fix something CCP broke so i've just started redoing all my settings, it'll take an hour or 2... Great fun!

Just what I was hoping to see when I logged on...

Thanks for the new launcher CCP, it's a decent and quicker way of logging in imo, but what an annoying way of doing it! lol

-Xyon
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#2158 - 2013-05-22 10:50:31 UTC
Where is the popcorn smiley when you need it?
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#2159 - 2013-05-22 10:55:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Eugene Kerner
If logging in multiple accounts does not get fixed within a week I WILL unsub at least one of them. Promise!

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP

bowlofmilk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2160 - 2013-05-22 10:55:31 UTC
Launcher takes to long to validate the client.

Wasn't happy that all my setting had disappeared.


I am currently by passing the launcher by using the EVE.bin.exe as suggested by others.

The great part is my client setting are now back, after launching the client this way Big smile