Player Features and Ideas Discussion

To avoid the NPC corp tax. I would think that occasionally having to reform your 1-man corp would be a very minor inconvenience compared to having a non-negligible portion of your income permanently go poof.

Fair enough. But why shoving this "multiplayer" down everyone else's throats? There is lowsec/WH where cooperation is strongly recommended. There is null where solo is not an option. This leaves hisec as an enclave, admittedly quite spacious, where single player mode of a sort is possible. What problem do you have with that?

you know quoting GM correspondence is prohibited by forum rules.
you better remove relevant parts quick.

Why did I make a player corp? I wanted a POS. I wanted my own colors. I wanted to be something other than part of an enormous group. I didn't want to operate under the arbitrary unwritten "rules" set by others. Still, I spent plenty of time in CAS and I don't regret it. In fact, I have an alt that's specifically in CAS and will remain there just so I can stay in touch.

As a CAS alumni, I can say:

To hell with all haters. Player corps aren't the glorious shining beacons of multiplayer emergence that they're so touted to be.

If you're smart enough to join CAS during your character creation, you get an amazing multiplayer experience. Maybe other NPC corps are solo-oriented, I haven't been in any of them to find out. Center for Advanced Studies operates as a very large, fully-functional corp minus the specific perks (and god-awful nightmare headaches) that are reserved for player corporations. They have their own mining division under CAS Mining Alliance. They have a base of nullsec operations in Syndicate under CAS Combat Guild, who conducts monthly or biweekly roams all throughout Syndicate. They have alts in player corps in order to have things like research POSes, but their mains remain in CAS. CAS isn't quite everything it used to be years and years ago, but it's still one of the best - if not the best - newbie corporations in the game.

Why do people stay there in CAS, even though they could clearly operate a successful player corp and even though most of their "safety" is null and void by living in Syndicate? Because they don't want to leave their friends of 3, 5, 7, sometimes 10 years. Because there's nothing that being in a player-operated corp can offer that they don't already have via some other means. Because someone's got to teach the newbies, and do it correctly. Because despite the limitations, they're happy where they are. Because this is EVE, and nobody in EVE has the right to tell you what corp you're going to be in or how you're going to play the game.


This is EVE. You don't get to dictate how someone else builds their sandcastle. Now stop posting and biomass yourself.

They are participating in the game, just not in the way you want. But so what? What harm does their existence do to you or anyone else? Some people simply aren't interested in PvP. If you close off NPC corps to them, they'll just form their own solo corps and hop around when wardecced. If you close all the loopholes so that there's no way for them to mind their own business, they'll just find another game to play. How is that helpful?

Convince me that people who just want to mind their own business and blast some red crosses are ruining the game for anyone, and I'll campaign with you. I just don't see it.

I think it's even more amusing when the guy that says "Yes, we are trying to force them" is part of a Big Null Alliance™.

Again, though, why does it matter if some people just want to do their own thing and don't want to be messed with? Who is it hurting?

The vast majority of them would probably disagree, and I think most of them are in a better position to make that judgement than someone who's never met them. Sure, there may be a few that acquire a taste for PvP after being ganked a few times, but I'd argue that's a tiny fraction of the whole.


You haven't really made a case for that, though. What is the positive outcome you expect to see from forcing non-PvPers into PvP?


Sure, there's some of that, but as it pertains to this discussion... so what? A guy in an NPC corp isn't going to take your sov space, no matter how many missions he runs. Why does it matter if his risks are low?

Obviously doesn't understand game mechanics ^. Suicide ganking is much closer to griefing yet people like you don't realize that war decs are a mechanic, a flawed one currently but put in the game for a reason regardless.

I don't know why, but it never fails to amaze me when this attitude continues to surface, that if someone else plays EVE differently they are surely playing it wrong. Couple that with the inevitable proposal on how to "fix" the game to force those playing the game wrong to do so correctly, just leaves me shaking my head.