Player Features and Ideas Discussion

fixed it.

You're already in a player-run corporation. The OP's idea is to essentially make it so you can't permanently hide in a noobcorp and mission/mine/etc with impunity*.


*or at least as much impunity as is provided by being in a noobcorp.


After reading it again, various other tweaks that can be applied:

1. all NPC corps that are not the noob-corp (e.g. Aliastra) are in the Militia.
2. all NPC corps that are not the Universities have a higher tax (to fund their militia stuff)

Wo0t for another thread to fix something which isn't broken!! Go Go fixers!!

Get over it. Some people don't want to play the way you do. Get over your desire for easy kills to boost your uber killboard as well.

Anyone can play Eve the way they want - so long as it's the way this guy wants them to play.

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This topic gets brought up alot. Personally, I'm more for limiting basic abilities in NPC corps, but if players want to avoid war, they will find a way to avoid war. Including quitting.

The reason I feel very strongly about NPC corps is that, like it or not, running a good corporation is work. Player-made corporations largely get no respect unless they are Goon or Test, at which point, they are insulted and derived by half the playerbase for no real reason.

NPC corps, on the other hand, seem to be almost 'perfect' in what they offer that audience. It's hard for a player corp in hisec to compete with this. Why join a player corp with a 5% tax when you can be war-decced, awoxed, etc? For so many characters, there is simply no benefit in their hisec lifestyle of mission running and belt mining, industry and research, to warrant the move. They aren't running POS's, they've got more people to talk to in general chat then they can care for usually, and overall the experience of not being awox'd or war dec'd outweighs the lack of a corporate hangar, etc.

Player corporations in general suffer for this. It's essentially nigh-impossible to make a hisec, PvE corporation that is in any way better than the NPC corps.



I always propose a stiff rise in taxes to make it more obvious that the NPC player is, in fact, still paying for their security. This isn't to make their life worse. I have enough alts in NPC corps to be of that stance, too. But it is to transfer the sense of ownership, that security comes at a cost. This HAS to be conveyed better to new players.

As well, the concept of supporting your corporation, by upgrade corporate capabilities and options (even in hisec) should be considered. Adding in the ability of a corp to rent faction agents to provide better mission access to their corp mates? Or providing a public, managed stock market for investment to actually render a dividend and make corporate 'ownership' more valuable? Or how about providing more than POS (a buggy, costly, and altogether majorly useless system for a hisec occupant who can be patient a month for research) for corporation ownership, like deadspace rental?

Quite a few of these options can be found here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=235901&find=unread

But again, my point comes down to teaching players that avoiding war and living under that all-protective umbrella of the NPC corp should cost you significant amounts of your gross ... money you could otherwise spend on emergent gameplay which funds mercenaries and dedicated pvp players to fight for you instead.

The cost should equal out.

Show me on the doll where the bad NPC touched you.

Other people should play the game the way I want them too. True story.

hence the asterisk, and the caveat "well, as much impunity as is provided by being in a noobcorp". Pretty much though, people sitting that long in the noobcorps don't add anything to EVE ... and in general seem to be the ones who whine loudest about "nerfing hisec". Essentially, these are the people who want to play eve in singleplayer mode...

I have nearly 21 million SP in industry on this character (1 or 2 skills need finishing to L5). I prefer the drone of lasers to the earth-shattering kaboom of artillery. Even though I now fly with a "PVP Corp", I still focus my efforts in the support roles (logi/hero tackle/etc). The thing is, even though I myself may still be a "carebear", I can fully recognize the need for all walks in New Eden -- or at least those that want to play EVE in "Multiplayer" mode.

Those are the disadvantages of joining someone else's corp, but what about just making your own 1-man corp? Is there more to shedding wardecs than just dissolving the corp and making a new one (at far less cost than the wardec)?

Edit: Oh, do you get a big chat channel in NPC corps? I guess that's what you were referring to. I guess that's valid, though there's always local for socializing.

but WHY should they do this? For dissolving it and creating a new one when wardecced by some fool?? Thats work, unneccessary work they simply dont do because they dont have any good from it.


you wardec a corporation not a single individual. So invalid request - once player isnt part of corporation, there is no reason he should remain a wardec target.



I love it when high sec squatters start whining about lack of pvp.