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WoW Subscribers leaving... because game's creators are insane.
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Naomi Hale
#1 - 2013-05-10 04:23:35 UTC
BBC News

"The majority of lost users were in the East, despite the company making efforts to appeal to those markets, with recent upgrades."

With Kung-Fu Pandas?!?! That's like trying to break into the UK by adding Cockney chimney-sweeps or South America with Guerrilla fighter soccer stars!

It all has the ring to it of some executive saying Kung-Fu Pandas will bring in Asian players and everyone else being to scared to tell them "No sir, that's a F***ing stupid idea!"

I'm Naomi Hale and this is my favourite thread on the forums.
Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-05-10 04:25:39 UTC
Cockney chimney-sweeps would be too OP.

Probably be drunken football louts instead.

Press F1 to plastic garden chair bash. F2 is glass opponent with a 15% chance to reflect damage back to player. F3 to vomit on opponent causing blind for 15 seconds.

"I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." - Kenneth O'Hara

"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate
Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#3 - 2013-05-10 05:01:52 UTC
Wow has only been getting better with the years. The real issue is that it's still the same game and eventually boredom sets in.

The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity.

Naomi Hale
#4 - 2013-05-10 05:02:02 UTC
Graygor wrote:
Cockney chimney-sweeps would be too OP.

Probably be drunken football louts instead.

Press F1 to plastic garden chair bash. F2 is glass opponent with a 15% chance to reflect damage back to player. F3 to vomit on opponent causing blind for 15 seconds.


Well in that tone it wouldn't be Kung-Fu but something morre contemporary, like Yakuza... err... Pandas.

I'm Naomi Hale and this is my favourite thread on the forums.
Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-05-10 05:04:45 UTC
Naomi Hale wrote:
Graygor wrote:
Cockney chimney-sweeps would be too OP.

Probably be drunken football louts instead.

Press F1 to plastic garden chair bash. F2 is glass opponent with a 15% chance to reflect damage back to player. F3 to vomit on opponent causing blind for 15 seconds.


Well in that tone it wouldn't be Kung-Fu but something morre contemporary, like Yakuza... err... Pandas.


Full body tattoos for WoW characters?

I'd laugh if they got it before we did... and also be a little sad.

"I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." - Kenneth O'Hara

"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#6 - 2013-05-10 05:08:01 UTC
Nerf Chimney Sweeps, boost Steam Powered Mecha.

In for a penny, in for a Victorian era Steampunk playground.

Which... would in its own right work as a game now I think about it.

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-05-10 05:13:21 UTC
Needs more airship.

"I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." - Kenneth O'Hara

"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-05-10 05:18:54 UTC
They're all going to mars!

They don't want to live on this planet anymore...

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-05-10 05:19:39 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
They're all going to mars!

They don't want to live on this planet anymore...



The lag is going to be hell.

"I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." - Kenneth O'Hara

"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#10 - 2013-05-10 06:49:37 UTC
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Wow has only been getting better with the years. The real issue is that it's still the same game and eventually boredom sets in.


We're so lucky that EVE won't follow that path as our CCP overlords keep changing the way combos work (FAI, instead of 1,1, 2, to get Fire Bolt, after Odyssey we'll be swept away by the callenges of pressing 2,1, 2 instead, to get Fire Arrow).

Old gameplay, new buttons, CCP could teach Blizzard some lessons. Cool


BTW, the panda stuff worked out, as WoW got a million subcribers in China. It just was short-lived. Meanwhile, CCP itself also haves it clearer on that front: just in 2012, Hilmar told to a Chinese website how in 2013 EVE would see further development of avatar content. We know that's not exactly acurate, but then it turns that Chinese players love, amongst all stuff, avatar customization. Telling them that here at TQ avatars have been abandoned for a year and its development is posponed sine die would had make for a very poor launch at Tiancity, specially as EVE advertising in the PRC consists of 90% avatar stuff.
Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#11 - 2013-05-10 07:15:56 UTC
And to be fair the Pandaran monks in warcraft pre-dates the "kungfu panda" by over 5 years

The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity.

Reiisha
#12 - 2013-05-10 08:36:13 UTC
How surprising, a company makes their game so easy that even the most casual of casual players churn through all the available content in less than a week, including levelling - Then complains that people start leaving once their done and don't subscribe for another 12 months.

But it must be the customers fault, right? Since what could possibly be wrong with very easy raiding and group content as the only content you actually focus on?

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-05-10 09:15:42 UTC
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
And to be fair the Pandaran monks in warcraft pre-dates the "kungfu panda" by over 5 years

I remember that. They felt terribly un-warcrafty there too. I thought it was sort of a weak joke until MoP trailer came out and it suddenly became serious. Well it didn't stop being a joke for many, but I mean Blizzard started to take them seriously.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#14 - 2013-05-10 14:44:49 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Graygor wrote:
Cockney chimney-sweeps would be too OP.

Probably be drunken football louts instead.

Press F1 to plastic garden chair bash. F2 is glass opponent with a 15% chance to reflect damage back to player. F3 to vomit on opponent causing blind for 15 seconds.

F8 to leg it when the constables show up.

Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
They're all going to mars!

They don't want to live on this planet anymore...


Just wait until they open the new turbidium mine...

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#15 - 2013-05-10 20:10:47 UTC
And here I thought that everybody liked King-Fu fighting (pandas).

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#16 - 2013-05-11 11:39:35 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
And here I thought that everybody liked King-Fu fighting (pandas).

...It was a little bit frightening. Those kicks are fast as lightning.


(and now I have that song stuck in my head)

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#17 - 2013-05-11 13:02:42 UTC
But they fought with expert timing.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#18 - 2013-05-11 13:29:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
IMHO, their appeal to a more "East Asian" audience through the use of Pandas is a bit of, shall we say, stereotyping ?

I'm honestly surprised they didn't incorporate fighting fat smiling Buddhas. Seriously.


EDIT: This is like adding cowboys for the heck of it to appeal to "Americans". Won't work, really.

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Caljiav Ocanon
The Holy Rollers
#19 - 2013-05-11 15:05:05 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
IMHO, their appeal to a more "East Asian" audience through the use of Pandas is a bit of, shall we say, stereotyping ?

I'm honestly surprised they didn't incorporate fighting fat smiling Buddhas. Seriously.


EDIT: This is like adding cowboys for the heck of it to appeal to "Americans". Won't work, really.



TBH, those stupid drunk fung-fu pandas are what finally sent me over the edge...

Some of the best times I had in wow were during The Burning Crusade. Everyone (finally) had a role, content had to be worked for and sure there were problems with some of the implementation, Badges of Justice chief among them (people grinding kara for weeks just for easy badges) and other minor things but overall it was a blast.

For me at least WotLK was the beginning of the end for WoW, some things were fixed, most made worse. They fixed the badge system (sorta) but made it more of a mess at the same time...I'll call it a wash. But the new Naxxramas, yikes! Probably Blizzards single worst mistake. The new Random dungeon feature was also introduced, probably the second worst idea Blizzard ever had. This is when things started really taking a dive and it became about "players seeing the content". This was the start of something bad. Although "hard mode" content had been around for a while (think original Zul'Aman 10 man raid) the worst was yet to come, as Blizzard then decided that "hard mode" content was to be officially separated from "normal" content.


The only real difference with EVE and WoW is that here we call casual players "carebears". Otherwise the playerbase of the games aren't that different from what I can tell.

In WoW people will tell you to "uninstall and delete your character" and here they say "go biomass yourself"

In WoW people bitched about "getting ganked" and in EVE people ***** about "getting podded".

We might call things by a different name but it's the same crap.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#20 - 2013-05-11 16:55:47 UTC
Caljiav Ocanon wrote:



The only real difference with EVE and WoW is that here we call casual players "carebears". Otherwise the playerbase of the games aren't that different from what I can tell.




Uh-oh, gird your loins, we're goin' off the rails, now..........

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
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