Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I often hear about AFK Cloaking vs PvE debates.

I think I might have an idea that could take a new and interesting approach to solving this.

Permit secondary targets / destruction of resources.

What if that asteroid belt could be smart bombed into dust that noone could mine?
Or maybe those rats were emerging from a destructible wormhole or other gateway vulnerable to attack?

Sure, these resources would resett after downtime as always, but now there is an interest in actually defending them from hostile attack while they could be harvested.

Perhaps special weapons or other needs could be required, such as those needing many players working together to achieve.

An interesting angle to consider.

I like the potential, but I would point out that the small station orbiting this body, presumably to harvest moon goo, would be most likely a far easier target.

Now, bombing planets to eliminate PI activities also sounds fun, but I think Dust514 covers this already.

I really like this idea alot, ewen the added bomb the moons. though as for the moons, maybe you dont blow the moon up, but bombard it to nullify production, so lowering its output % depending how long you can bombard, untill its been reparied.

In highsec, blowing up asteroids with ore, will need to look into, since its not "just" capsulars that mine, corporations in highsec be kinda grumpy when their areas would get depleted due to people blowing them up, these are my only consearns, as i want a realistic vibrant Eve, where actions have consecuenses.

And this would create minable asteroids which contain the precious precious moon goo among all other minable ores and goodies.

I'd like to change that with charters, but I imagine that attacking asteroids would incur a suspect flag in high sec in any case.

I'm not sure how much blowing up asteroids would really affect industry in any security space, but I don't see why we shouldn't be able to do it. Same with moons. It would provide smaller entities a way of attacking larger ones, which is something Eve really lacks.

Maybe blowing up asteroids shoudl not only destroy the asteroids, but also inhibit how much is respawned later on. This could affect industrial upgrades in null?

That's probably an overstatement. The belts left over could respawn, and destroying a moon should be hard anyway.

It's a cool idea, however i think attacking moons would ultimately be pointless because it would almost certainly be easier/faster to attack the POS mining the moon rather than the moon itself (it certainly should be)

From the hints dropped about the future during the keynote at fanfest, the idea of space colonization and destruction is next up on the cards for expansion. so these things are probably closer to a reality than most think.

Personally i'm hoping that they will make player built outposts destructible the current % of 0.0 systems with outposts is getting pretty high and there needs to be a way to limit it becoming one per system. I'd rather see us go back to the wilderness of a few per region that can be used as major staging points with active markets.

the problem this presents is you will actually be removing reasons for the defending / farming players to be in space, which will ultimately reduce interaction. if you come along and destroy all of the belts for the days/week/month. people will just not play for that time.
and unless it requires a fairly serious HP grind there will be little to no way to form defense fleets in time to stop it happening.

this is the reason for reinforcement timers. it gives each side a chance to fight and compete, but i hardly see roid belts going into reinforced.

you'd have to set a time, that allows for it to be more worthwhile than just camping the system / station. but not so much that one group could should down massive swathes of space.

one thought that has just come to me, is that with ice belts going to anoms with a 4hr respawn, this could be your timeframe. then you'd just need to assess what would be a reasonable time to 'shut down' the belt

note: personally i look forward to the day when all mining is done in anoms like ice will be in odyssey

I would imagine blowing up an asteroid would yield many smaller ones but not really destroy any ore. ( like Asteroids the game )

Missiles would make the chunks smaller but not really remove ore from the game, just make it tedious to mine. a 100,000 unit Veldspar rocks become four 25,000 ones.

Shooting rocks with any type of ammunition will make the rock bigger and add rare minerals, it a mass ratio thing.

Lasers are the only exception but it could cut the rocks into pieces as well.

As for PI, I think Dust will take care of that one in short order.

Moon goo needs to get from the surface to the POS, add in a cargo hauler once every 2-4 hours from surface to POS that is in flight for 10-15 minutes. Give the owner a warning that a planetary launch is happening with enough lead time to get some defenses in place. Attackers can take out the transport and add in normal salvage rules so moon goo could be stolen.

Also the Minig Charter idea from Andrea Griffin has merit, please go read it.