EVE General Discussion

My main is male. I would feel a little weird if corpmates called me by a girl name.

Also, 4 of my 6 characters that are actually used are male. But my favorite alt (my char with second-most SP) is female and somehow she is my favorite character

Although emotionally I feel that I play myself when I use my main, but more like I only control someone else when I play my female alt.

Remind me not to post when tired and about to face peak hour traffic. I wanted to come back to my throwaway comment and go into it a bit more.

I totally disagree with the freedom but no confidence thing. Do you mean, others having no confidence in you as a character/player because they identify you as a woman? That is pretty disgraceful, and imho a function of the maturity of the players around you. With my life experience, and my gender I have found there are flaky people everywhere, but in key areas (financial and work related) I have found most women that I have dealt with to be reliable and up front. The other male players I have engaged with in this game have treated me equally in this regard, they knew I was a female, I roamed, crafted, participated in alliance exec and in general perceived no major barriers/issues other than those triggered by my own pecadilloes, and the one or two immature players who dwelt within the prejudices you have outlined.

As to your other comment, respect and responsibility arrive in this place like any other (real life included), if you show competence you will be offered responsibility, and if you are not given the responsibility you desire, in Eve you can certainly go and make it yourself. Its up to you what you do with what you are offered or can take.

If people have a problem with all of that and being female, time they grew up.

I find this pretty laughable, as it can be proved in a short minute using eve voice. The alternative is to ignore it and move on, again the idea that they could minimise the threat to themselves by implying your are female (ergo a lesser human being???) or only competent if male is pretty laughable. Again if you do prove it, more egg on their face according to their own assumptions.

I understand where you are coming from, and there are prejudiced people everywhere, but in Eve you have more freedom than most places to put yourself in a respectful environment, without being hindered by real life pressures.

Your last statement really sums it up, and showed me that despite our differing interpretations we are coming from the same place

This I unequivocally agree with, and I would point out that this being a game, I will barter my dignity for amusement from time to time, but its generally self effacing, and never at the expense of someone else's dignity. This is what makes the difference for me, by treating others as individuals first rather than males or females we usually end up with a whole lot more amusement. Eve is full of pretty idiosyncratic people, and that on its own is usually enough



My hubby made a female character, and it was damned funny when peeps called him Mary on comms. But we got over that pretty quick in the heat of battle, and whatnot. With names like Mr Epeen and whatnot floating around, there's plenty of other names you could choke on.

I might also add, I have quite a few female characters, none as amply endowed as Fleur. I had a great time with the character creator, and there was no doubt I wanted to push it to its limits in certain areas. On the other hand, I have buddies in real life not unlike this shape, and damned tootin, they love the way they look, and if you dis them for it, you ought to be prepared for the consequences. It was an exercise in something, and it is still playing out. So i guess if i try not to leverage sexual prejudice in my own game, observing who falls for it and who doesn't is still worth noting.

While there are a number of male players that have created some awesome avatars for either gender there are also many male players that don't seem to care and are happy with the random button which can result in some truly bizarre looking results. These same players are probably the ones who just slide the breast size to the max without a second thought. Most of the female players (the above posts included) seem to spend more time in the character design process, and rarely will I see a character that feels randomly thrown together or awkward.

I really think you did a fine job on your avatar, by the way.

Solved by using 'they' and 'them', as English speakers have been doing for centuries, notwithstanding the efforts of certain grammarians in love with Latin.

Heh, I just noticed this... I do play mostly females because I see my avatars as characters from a story, rather than incarnations of myself. I've never used game characters to be an incarnation of myself, but as tools.

Nice point too, though in EVE's setting, it seems at least for now that the gender of the clone matches that of the original. And errors in brain taping/imprinting the exception, the original personality usually goes with it. Or not?

It appears that different sources are in disagreement on how much your clones should be alike in order for neural burning to work correctly. Then again, something similar to plastical surgery that doesn't affect neural system shouldn't be a problem IMO. Oh the perversion potential...

More OT, in most games with character creation tools approx. half of my characters are male, half are female, just for the sake of diversity.

Closet Transvestites m8.
If that floats their boats then thats cool, just one thing though... Shave....please shave....FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
PLEASE SHAVE !

Please remember to be respectful when posting and refrain from any gender stereotyping. Thank you!