Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So I love playing solo in Eve. I think i'm in the minority. Seems like the exploring changes will now require fleets. Fanfest has images of cans flying out into space, while CCP Soundwave talks about how we will now need a buddy for exploring. So I have to buy an alt or drag someone along with me now? Are we talking about now removing solo exploration from the game as well? Because CCP has already killed the solo frigate communities by removing the statics from low. So now we have to explore to fund pvp, and thats getting made into a non solo activity now as well?

Seems to be a pretty clear trend towards removing methods a solo pilot can use to survive and fund pvp in low sec. Getting awfully restrictive for a sandbox game.

Why would solo pilots keep playing eve as pirates? We just keep getting punished and nerfed for making the choice to be on our own instead of fleeted up.

Is anyone at CCP interested in what the solo pilots have to say?

I have same problem so you arent alone.

But unlike you I am bit mixed feelings about this can looting. I think its good because it does give also reason to do it with your buddy. Yet I do not find it appealing to be panicly looting those things.

I find low sec too risky in general and if you want to be in lowsec you need friends or corp/alliance to back you up. Which is in sense ok.. Its MMO afterall. I simply find it sad that we have 2 types of pvp space in the common space (excluding wh). Why low sec cant have more activities that are meant for you to solo? Null is about people why low sec cant stand the same for solo players?

Thanks to the ore change it might be bit more nicer to mine in low now but I still consider low sec life not balanced in risk and reward. For small group/single player. Simply gaining anything from low can have high risk. Depends how you play of course but included to this lets say you get lot of things done and you lose one ship. You still have to figure out a way to transport your goods. I know risks can be cut down certain amount of where and how you play. So I am probably not entirely correct.

Yet I am tiny bit bitter how difficult it can be.

There is a principle that *almost* anything a player can do solo, a group can do better and faster. If you scale the rewards to a group, then it's a profitable venture for a small corp or roaming gang, OR a single player. But if you scale it to an individual, then it's only profitable for an individual.

Keep in mind that those can's are collected by the player, and each player will only be able to grab so many. If you want to reap the WHOLE site, you'll need more than one. But individual profits should scale to four or five man crews before being penalized. Thus, the sites become something that is good for small gangs or individuals equally.

That said, the rule that 'more players=more power' is one I've resisted for a long time. There needs to be hard-coded stacking penalties for this in the game. For missions and static content, the more that participate the less the overall isk. But pvp content does not seem to be hampered by any form of natural stacking, beyond server capacity. I fully support penalizing alpha and team damage/repair when it breaks the 10-man squad range.

Depends on your definition of viable ... if you're doing it for fun, and not to pay for PLEX, it's probably still going to be viable. If you do it 20 hours a day, perhaps it will still be viable. If you gank someone while they're unable to even see anything with a giant hacking screen in front of them, could be very viable.

That does lead me to a question: how much playtime should you invest per day to be able to make, say, 500mil a month. That's enough to get a plex.

So far with my recent endeavors in hisec mining (before the upcoming nerf, that is) it's about an hour and a half of mining a day. That's 1.5 hours of just mining in hisec systems, and I can pull in 500+ mil a month. Is that worth my playtime?

I'm not sure. But in an hour and a half of missioning level IV's, solo (not with an alt even), I can hit that same mark or a little better, it's according the mission.

Is hisec exploration going to resemble this number? For a solo explorer?

It's what you want to do with your time. They still make earning the isk either time intensive or effort intensive, or in the case of market and trade, at least player ability intensive.

If the exploration sites become too profitable, they will become the next hisec level Iv's, or nulsec moons. They will break the balance, the players will know it, and we'll abuse it.

We're driven that way, else most of us wouldn't play EvE. So CCP, sad to say, has to make sure to intentionally keep things down a notch.

Aww... nice, I forgot the manchild stuck in his childhood. Which stage of development would that be? You think that's what Eve is about? Going around griefing that younger solo kid... solo?

Eve is about large scale emergent interaction between emergent organizations. If you're stuck in that little sandbox you confine yourself in, we'll weep for you... or not.

Just do what I did and block sabre906. I've found most of what he says to be borderline trollish and mostly irrelevant.

Nah, they are dead set at eliminating solo gameplay completely.

what's that? a larger group can achieve more than a smaller one?

stop the press. this is game breaking.