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cyclone, phoon, awsome ships... now missiles?
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Atlas Oracle
Colossus Enterprises
#1 - 2013-05-03 17:11:42 UTC
I return to the game after a couple years away and login and find my cyclone I have been flying for years with 5 missile hardpoints.... really? missiles? wtf are matar ships caldari now? hilarious.

then i read the odysee notes and I see ph00n is going to be a missile ship. what? what?

CCP, what are you guys smoking???

I AM MATAR, NOT A PUSSY MISSILE WIMP.

The jaw dropping disappointment I felt looking at the fitting screen of my cyclone... immeasurable. My eyes could not believe themselves ShockedSad
Spurty
#2 - 2013-05-03 17:15:05 UTC
Hows it feel to always be so wrong about things?

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Atlas Oracle
Colossus Enterprises
#3 - 2013-05-03 17:15:58 UTC
Spurty wrote:
Hows it feel to always be so wrong about things?


story of my life, friend.
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The Troll Bridge
#4 - 2013-05-03 17:21:54 UTC
Torp Phoon fleets will blot out the sun! Brawler HAM ASB Cyclones will own the spacelanes!

Fear the blobs of rust and ducttape! The battlefields will turn crimson with the blood of the destroyed fleets..and the clouds of Iron Oxide emitted by the victors!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Atlas Oracle
Colossus Enterprises
#5 - 2013-05-03 17:25:40 UTC
But seriously, consider what they have done to the phoon.

It's a fcking better raven than a raven. wtf does a phoon have to do w/a raven. IT'S MATAR. For people who flew phoon for years, this is like being married to a hot babe for 10 years and one day you come home from work and you are now gay married to a 200lb 5 foot tall greasy fat man.

wtf is going on.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#6 - 2013-05-03 17:28:31 UTC
You'll get over it.

Oh god.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-05-03 17:29:02 UTC
Atlas Oracle wrote:
But seriously, consider what they have done to the phoon.

It's a fcking better raven than a raven. wtf does a phoon have to do w/a raven. IT'S MATAR. For people who flew phoon for years, this is like being married to a hot babe for 10 years and one day you come home from work and you are now gay married to a 200lb 5 foot tall greasy fat man.

wtf is going on.


Wait till you find out about all the Amarr drone boats.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#8 - 2013-05-03 17:29:24 UTC
Atlas; CCP's decided that each race should have two major weapons lines, which vertical paths along each weapons line. The ship balancing presentation from Fanfest is something you should definitely watch on this.

Caldari are hybrid/missile; Gallente are hybrid/drone; Matari are projectile/missile; Amarr are now laser/drone.

This actually means that only Matari and Amarr have weapons that noone else has bonuses with, which I find curious but a non-issue.

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Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#9 - 2013-05-03 17:30:30 UTC
Atlas Oracle wrote:
I take a few years off and come back and stuffs changed... WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF


Fixed.

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Calathorn Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-05-03 17:30:37 UTC
awww, someone not happy bout their winmmatar ship being brought in line?Roll

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Noriko Mai
#11 - 2013-05-03 17:32:21 UTC
mmmmMMMmmMMMmmMMATAR. mmmMmMATAR. Ok, it seems impossible to write this not uppercase.

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#12 - 2013-05-03 17:33:07 UTC
Atlas Oracle wrote:
Spurty wrote:
Hows it feel to always be so wrong about things?


story of my life, friend.


Tell us more about this interesting story.

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Atlas Oracle
Colossus Enterprises
#13 - 2013-05-03 17:34:17 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Atlas; CCP's decided that each race should have two major weapons lines


Interesting, in that 'why is that guy shoving a chainsaw up his nose' kind of way, I guess.

But the phoon... it is a legendary love of many pilots. You can't just turn a phoon into a raven and not say 'wtf just happend'.

The new phoon is not a phoon at all. it's some new ship that happens to have the name of an old mighty icon of a very, very special eve ship. RIP phoon :(

But to your point, the phoon was alreayd a gun/missile ship. It already had those two weapon systems. It did not need to change to have those two weapon systems. This is what I do not understand.


And on the cyclone... I fly a cyclone as a gunboat for many years. I log in and it's not a gunboat anymore. Not even close. What is it now, a wimpy drake? that's a caldari ship. What is a cyclone now? Can anyone answer that? Is it a wannabe drake?
Atlas Oracle
Colossus Enterprises
#14 - 2013-05-03 17:35:50 UTC
Calathorn Virpio wrote:
awww, someone not happy bout their winmmatar ship being brought in line?Roll


Fair play, but let's be real here. Cyclone and Phoon are not "brought into line". They are now a wannabe drake and better raven than a raven. I AM MATAR FOR F#CKS.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-05-03 18:02:18 UTC
Atlas Oracle wrote:
Calathorn Virpio wrote:
awww, someone not happy bout their winmmatar ship being brought in line?Roll


Fair play, but let's be real here. Cyclone and Phoon are not "brought into line". They are now a wannabe drake and better raven than a raven. I AM MATAR FOR F#CKS.


Deal with it. If not, contract me your stuff.
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#16 - 2013-05-03 19:26:24 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:


Wait till you find out about all the Amarr drone boats.


Why, why do you have to remind me -.-
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#17 - 2013-05-03 19:31:36 UTC
If it's any condolence, the Navy Typhoon is planned to stay like the old Typhoon, with maybe even +10 bonuses to both weapon types like the Navy Scythe.

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Ilkahn
Ideal Mechanisms
#18 - 2013-05-03 19:43:09 UTC
Cypherous wrote:
KuroVolt wrote:


Wait till you find out about all the Amarr drone boats.


Why, why do you have to remind me -.-


As a gallente force trained in to these amarr pieces of crap.... i welcome the amarr drone boats. It's about time they put out something worth flying. Now, to take out that holy water sprayer and for goodness sakes let's hope i don't get drunk and pee in the holy water fountain again.
Atlas Oracle
Colossus Enterprises
#19 - 2013-05-03 20:01:21 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
If it's any condolence, the Navy Typhoon is planned to stay like the old Typhoon, with maybe even +10 bonuses to both weapon types like the Navy Scythe.


ooh really? If so, I just got soooooooooooo much happier!! LolCool

won't they eventually rebalance that into a caldari tub of crap though if they did it to the regular phoon?
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#20 - 2013-05-03 20:06:56 UTC
Variety is so awful isn't it?

The specific issue with the Typhoon was it's a pain in the as to use because of its kitchen sink approach where you have to be able to use EVERYTHING to actually use one.
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