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Passive shield resistance modules?
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Trolly McForumalt
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-05-01 21:50:44 UTC
I'm posting this question because I've never (and I mean never) seen a fit posted that used passive modules - only active. I understand that the only omni resist module is an active module, but if you're fitting specific resists why not the passive, cap-less variety? Is the cap usage so minor as to not matter?
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-05-01 22:08:43 UTC
The active modules give a higher bonus, Cap usage is generally viewed as a minor consideration

the eve playerbase typically chases the highest numbers possible in DPS, Resists or EHP .... like sheep really.
Trolly McForumalt
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-05-01 22:23:51 UTC
Kitty Bear wrote:
The active modules give a higher bonus, Cap usage is generally viewed as a minor consideration

the eve playerbase typically chases the highest numbers possible in DPS, Resists or EHP .... like sheep really.



Hmm - may be worth using if you're concerned about neuts and don't have a cap booster. Might work well with an ASB.
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#4 - 2013-05-01 22:56:43 UTC
I've seen them on some Drakes, plugging the EM hole.

They have their uses. they're just somewhat limited. 52% vs 55% (with maxed compensation skills)

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-05-01 22:57:10 UTC
Because active modules just give a way better bonus then passive modules.

So why gimp your tank.

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#6 - 2013-05-01 23:18:31 UTC
Also you can overheat active hardeners giving a significant boost to effective buffer and effective boost/passive recharge. This can often mean the difference between going home in your ship or going home in a pod.
Tau Cabalander
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Working Stiffs
#7 - 2013-05-01 23:20:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Trolly McForumalt wrote:
I'm posting this question because I've never (and I mean never) seen a fit posted that used passive modules - only active. I understand that the only omni resist module is an active module, but if you're fitting specific resists why not the passive, cap-less variety? Is the cap usage so minor as to not matter?

The active modules have a larger bonus than the passive ones, though the Pith-A are equivalent and don't use capacitor, which is handy for things like Sleeper Guardian battleships that energy neutralize you to 0.

We used to use this Tengu fit below in C5 and C6 wormhole sites with 4 capital escalations and 8-10 ships (C4 and lower are a joke with this, requiring only 2-4 ships [more ships avoids all being neuted dry unable to rep]).

The Rattlesnake fit below is a massively over-tanked level 4 mission ship. The passive resists are to help conserve capacitor for repping drones. [EDIT: Substitute Nosferatu for the energy transfer when solo.]


[Tengu, Passive Spider]
True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Large Shield Extender II
Pithum A-Type Explosion Dampening Amplifier
Pithum A-Type Magnetic Scattering Amplifier
Pithum A-Type Magnetic Scattering Amplifier
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Large Shield Transporter II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender II

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor



[Rattlesnake, Active Hardeners]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Pithum A-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum A-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Shield Transporter II
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array

Large Core Defense Field Purger II
Large Core Defense Field Purger II
Large Core Defense Field Purger II


Garde II x5
Bouncer II x5
Hammerhead II x10
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#8 - 2013-05-02 12:21:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Inxentas Ultramar
Trolly McForumalt wrote:
I'm posting this question because I've never (and I mean never) seen a fit posted that used passive modules - only active. I understand that the only omni resist module is an active module, but if you're fitting specific resists why not the passive, cap-less variety? Is the cap usage so minor as to not matter?


Rigs my friend! Take a look at how PVP fits are rigged: it's very common to see ships that have their resistance holes plugged this way and / or their EHP buffers increased. People do this in PVP as it saves them a module slot, which is often very desirable. Since it's rare to know exactly what you will be up against, people tend to favour omni resists over specific resists. Specific resists are more usefull in PVE, when you know exactly what type of damage you will have to counter.