Player Features and Ideas Discussion

EVERY ONE THAT IS FAVORABLE TO THE POS REVAMP PLEASE READ THIS

http://twostep4csm.blogspot.com.br/2013/01/i-am-small-portion-of-community.html

AND THEN SAY HERE

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194625

Interesting ideas very interested to see where CCP take all of the good ideas being formed, hopefully there are some surprised faces over at CCP who realise that we actually care about POS's and their future.

The last Dev Blog related to POS rework proposed:

-Private Starbase Hangar
-Repackaging modules in starbase arrays
-Swapping and fitting Strategic Cruiser subsystems at a starbase
-Accessing starbase arrays from anywhere within the shield
-Starbase setup UI improvements
-Removing the sovereignty requirement from Capital Ship Maintenance Arrays

These features are something really god. and will help allot. But this is a small part of the needed. I think A unified inventory for every structure in the pos, the modularity, the dockability, market, battlestations and the rest are still verry needed. I hope that we keep seeing this upgrades in the next expansions! Meanwhile this is a victory!!!

NEWS: Poetic-Discourse-Don't-Bother-Asking-About-a-POS-Revamp

New article in EVE news saying how CCP is managing to don't Revamp the POS, Going against the will of the players turning EVE into just a corporate money machine.

Indeed. If you take a Ultra Huge and expensive POS it would definitely be better then an outpost in most aspects.

Although, the POS continues with limited storage space; It is up-gradable, but still limited. Also they are destructible, despite the new option to "run away" using the jump drive.

I think part of the plan is to make outposts somewhat obsolete since CCP is having a hard time to deal with them. Since people always discuss if they should be destructible objects as any other EVE player owned stuff or not.

Also this will give more flexibility to small alliances leave hi-sec.

Thx for your feedback!!

a lot players feel the need to build thyre own castles .
ok , we all like nice things .

we have 2 things , a pos , and a outpost .
a pos cost a few 100 mil max
maybe 1 bil with a lot of extra
an outpost cost 45 bil +

we cant ask ccp for a pos that have all the benefits of an outpost .
but we have the most .
a pos is capeble to invent , build , doing it all .
we cant ask for medical , reprocessing , Insurance , repairshop jumpclone , and more .

the idea to build the new pos with blocks , its the same now , we use bloks and hanging them where thy belong .

i dont like the idea of a pos takeover , after the enemy wins the fight .
we want explosions .

in this case , do we want to make a pos stronger and give it more ehp ?
more blocks to give it more firepower ?
do we want it to fly ?

i dont think

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we need a posebility for each member to store assets and ships , only the owner can take .


but i now , a lot of people want 1 construction , a shipsbay and all the other mods hanging on the tower .
so you change the look of the tower with each mod you anchor or fit to the tower .

not the look of the tower itself , but like the shipsbay is hanging directly on the tower and it looks like 1 bigger structure .
then it looks more like a station everybody like to have , but it stays a pos .

Just my Ideas:

Why differnent sizes?
One sice - and maybe extended by players. But has some "internal" restrictions like
- maximum power link lengths: Creating to big structures the outer modules got no power?
- limited length for processing lanes: Outer modules may only get limited cpu ower any may not operate properly (ractors/labs need more and more time to finsh...)
- the "internal" restriction may be modified by Skills and beeing a Player-, Corporation- or Alliance-Starbase.

So: Depending on the current Size of the Starbase you need just a Player, a Corporation or an Alliance to operate/control is. (so a single Player may never take over an full blown big Starbase build by an Alliance)

Another really neede funny module would be the:
Long Distance Jump Bridge:
- Allow ships to be bridged far far away...
- up to 25 LY for frigs
- up to 18 LY for cruiser
- up to 11.5 LY for battlecruiser
- up to 7.5 LV for BS
- but needs 2x lo than a regular jump bridge per m² and distance
- destination may be a cyno (one way jump) or another starbase
- manager may specify tax rate for jumps per used LO (but must still provide the LO)
- you may also use this bridge to jump into WH or out of WH systems when in range :-)

For Construction of the Starbase:
- No "slot" system! Able to free build in all 3 dimensions - so it's on you to build a beautifil starbase, place the shield generators at strategic locations and you sentries wise! ... this yould be the only way to bring Minecraft to EVE (and get all their players )

To achieve this
- there sould be hull-upgrades: They increase sig and forms the model shown from space and define the available space inside the starbase for...
- ... interiour-upgrades: This are Hangars, Labs, Offices, ... which are placed inside the hull!
- ... and last but not leasd: Space-upgrades (Cyno jammer, Shield generators, Jump Drives, ...) which have to be placed outside or on top of the hull.
- Space-upgrades would also be sentries. They can be placed around the Starbase (10..80km?) but have to be controlled by player and need alot of energy (or what ever to operate...)
- Another Space-Upgrades would be defensive Modules (Jammer, Webber, Neut, ...)
- to upgrade the hull where a space-upgrade is already mounted you have to unanchor the module first.
- ... player may control max two small or one large guns and max two defensive modules.
--> it should be a team challenge to defend a starbase (so xlarge sentries will need two player to operate )!

Solarsystem-Limitations:
- Only one Starbase can be at one solar system at the same time...or the sun would collapse . Maybe max two for twin star systems?
- Starbase should really have one or more RF-Phases...
- Shooting the Starbase completely down should not blast it up but leave is as wreck in Space!

The Starbase-Wreck:
- ...can be repped and than take over by any new player/corporation/allicance (depending on it's current size!)
- ...only has very limited functionality. Maybe any hangar may be hacked by any player, everyone can dock, jump clones still work but you cannot install new clones...
- ...also occupies the System so no other Starbase may enter.
- ...the Starbase cannot be jumped, disassembled, destroyed or moved outside of the system: must be repaired first! Even no other Starbase may enter this system.
- ... (a big fat) maybe: The starbase collapses when beein a wreck and no player activities for more than one month. In this case some of the stored items are dropped and spead over the solar system.

http://evenews24.com/2013/05/14/kirith-kodachi-an-economy-on-the-rocks/

Since that huge amount of complains against CCP not revamping POS, it looks like CCP wants to reduce the amount of POSes in the game...

maybe because they want to get rid of it...

or maybe because they want less people complaining when they change it...

ODYSSEY brought up some improvements towards the current system:

We added Personal Hangar Array. This is similar to the Corporate Hangar Array, but, as the name implies, is for personal storage only. The PHA has a storage capacity of 50,000.

We adjusted the arrows and camera when positioning POS modules, to make it less of a hassle.

CCP is doing things slowly, but they are doing. I just hope that the POS system reaches this EPIC state that we want someday, ( and get closer to it in the next expansion)

OBS: Probably they will put CCP Fozzie in this task! I hope so!