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If CCP can tell the difference between botters and people who use Evemon, why not just ban botting (which they have)? What is the need for the double threat that is then randomly and possibly capriciously enforced?

Did you happen to notice that none of what you listed is in any way related to cache scraping?

Here's the important bit:The reason you can do all that is because you're using the tools specifically designed to let you do that.

Why would they, when EVEMon already does all that? It's not like using EVEMon has suddenly become illegal. Just keep doing what you're already doing with the tools you're already using.

No-one knows until someone figures something out, which is why a large bat and discretionary swinging is a better method than trying to outlaw every specific circumstance.

My point is that he's wrote a nice little essay about something that in no way affects him.

Because EVEmon as a 3rd party program uses cache scraping which would be bannable by CCP if this policy actually goes through. Let me be clear here, if CCP is out to stop cache scrapping and the programs that use them then that means use of EVEmon falls under a very wide net. So let's say you get let go the first time because someone uses their discretion and says my use of EVEmon is okay, but each time that net gets cast and I end up under it how many times will I get by on the mercy of someone's discretion.

Do you honestly think CCP wants to take the time and sift through the grain and the chaff here? If it honestly did then CCP Stillman would never have made the statement that "half of EVE's subscribers are now bannable." I am sure if we looked into further you would find some rather vanilla uses of EVEmon and other 3rd party programs and not this huge gaping security hole as it was originally made out to be.

Again to make it short and sweet for you: If it uses cache scraping CCP thinks its a violation of the EULA, EVEmon uses cace scraping and is considered a violation. I use EVEmon for a completely different purpose than what CCP is looking for, but CCP is asking me to trust in their discretionary judgement that I won't get caught up in some hamfisted security sweep. No thank you.

And in the process, I have to have a gigantic axe hanging over my head if I were to use anything which remotely touches the cache, and I can be banned for it at any point in time by CCP suddenly changing their minds and going "oh it's always been this way".

What's next, making vague threats of banning people who use OCR, even in undetectable ways like taking screenshots and scanning the files?

I fear that when time to "revisit the EULA" will come, there will be no cache or bulkdata to scrape from.
CCP will regroup and counterattack, as they always do. This was just another example on miscommunication and another PR disaster.

Provide full marked data through API/Crest or other sources.
Provide full and normal (including all localization data) data dumps for each TQ/Sisi build. This can be done in fully automatic mode.
When you do this and provide all alternative ways to get data - get rid of cache and cache scraping.

…and is rather explicitly allowed, and they'd have to prove that you were using it to scrape data even if they wanted to enforce it (which they don't).

So again, why should they implement something in the game that EVEMon already does, and probably far better than they could do it?

If you're afraid of that, just don't scrape the cache. No-one is stopping you from using EVEMon.

…and, more importantly, you're using EVEMon for things that have nothing to do with cache scraping. So just keep doing that — I can't make it any shorter or sweeter for you than it already is, sorry.

B would still be an incomplete law. People would use tractors to run people over and claim, "It's not a car, it's not illegal!"

You have highlighted the whole problem with software EULAs though, in that they can't think of every possible wrong thing one could do with it, so they ban everything and leave themselves a clause that says "we reserve the right to do whatever we want, and you agree to be completely powerless."

Can you imagine if we had to sign software-like end user agreements to lease a car? We'd be in violation if we tried to replace a tail light or read and tried to decode the VIN.

I wonder if Eve would be as successful as it has been without modification. Also has caused CCP to enact some of the code themselves I am sure...

On a side note my computer has a macro that upon entry 'may' or 'may not' fire up Eve Mon open Google Docs with eve like information, like spreadsheets :( ... I guess it is no longer a spreadsheet game. Sad thing is just Yesterday I reactivated my alts...

Probably just to have the potential of them being banned if someone says they dont like me... seems a little 1930-40 or 1984 to me that you are snooping on a poor old girl.

I want definitively of what is not allowed... even if 50 pages (as a PDF) in which i can legally go though with crtl + f to find if something I am doing is bannable.