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What happend to the bc/dest skillbook changes?

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Elder Tarkin
The Projectiles Gentlemen's Club
#1 - 2013-04-14 09:05:36 UTC
They told us quite a while ago that they were changing things around and that we should start training cattlebruiser & destroyer to five because a skill book change was comming. I haven't seen or heard from it since.

I did some googling on it but I'm no expert googler and I found nothing good. So does anyone know? : )
flakeys
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-04-14 09:06:08 UTC
summer is coming Blink

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#3 - 2013-04-14 09:06:49 UTC
Theyre in the dog.


Praetor Meles
Black Mount Industrial
Breakpoint.
#4 - 2013-04-14 09:06:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Praetor Meles
Summer expansion, I'd imagine.

Edit: Also, yes, they're in the dog. Or somesuch.

[insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*

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Elder Tarkin
The Projectiles Gentlemen's Club
#5 - 2013-04-14 09:08:21 UTC
Thanks.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#6 - 2013-04-14 09:44:26 UTC
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eve+battlecruiser+skill+change

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Elder Tarkin
The Projectiles Gentlemen's Club
#7 - 2013-04-14 10:04:32 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eve+battlecruiser+skill+change


Aw =\ you are illiterate. That's so sad for you. If you could only read I would have told you to be strong and fight on in a world and time that really does not treat your kind as well as it should
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#8 - 2013-04-14 10:34:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Elder Tarkin wrote:
They told us quite a while ago that they were changing things around and that we should start training cattlebruiser & destroyer to five because a skill book change was comming. I haven't seen or heard from it since.

I did some googling on it but I'm no expert googler and I found nothing good. So does anyone know? : )

Dev Blog - CCP Ytterbium - The great ship skill changes of summer 2013

You may want to scroll down to "Destroyers and Battlecruisers, please fill your reimbursement form", but you should really carefully read the whole thing.

EDIT: Odyssey is slated for release June 4, 2013.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#9 - 2013-04-14 10:40:10 UTC
Elder Tarkin wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eve+battlecruiser+skill+change


Aw =\ you are illiterate. That's so sad for you. If you could only read I would have told you to be strong and fight on in a world and time that really does not treat your kind as well as it should


Well, since you still need more help, it's the first link on the page that gets you to. Then scroll down to the bottom, and you'll find what you're looking for.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Elder Tarkin
The Projectiles Gentlemen's Club
#10 - 2013-04-14 10:46:21 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Elder Tarkin wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eve+battlecruiser+skill+change


Aw =\ you are illiterate. That's so sad for you. If you could only read I would have told you to be strong and fight on in a world and time that really does not treat your kind as well as it should


Well, since you still need more help, it's the first link on the page that gets you to. Then scroll down to the bottom, and you'll find what you're looking for.


I should have been specific in that I was looking for specifics. I did read that article, it's the first one would find even if one was actually illiterate and searched by rolling a very dirty and somewhat insane dog across the keyboard.

Me saying "Thanks." was meant to end my inquiry since I realized that wishing for something more specific then just "summer" was kind of silly of me. It'll come when it's ready.
Dave Stark
#11 - 2013-04-14 10:49:13 UTC
asks for help.
complains when he gets it.

welcome to GD, folks.
Elder Tarkin
The Projectiles Gentlemen's Club
#12 - 2013-04-14 10:52:54 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
asks for help.
complains when he gets it.

welcome to GD, folks.


I said thanks. I recieved all the information I needed.

My reply to RubyPorto was simply a reaction to him being snarky. I really am not complaining about the help I recieved and I don't see how you could have gotten that impression.
Lord Haur
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#13 - 2013-04-14 10:57:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Haur
Quoting that dev blog, as it seems you don't want to read ~~words~~ to extract specifics.

Quote:
Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill are going to be split up into four racial versions each. We announced this last year and there is nothing new about it. The Destroyers skill will be removed from the game and replaced with Amarr Destroyer, Caldari Destroyer, Gallente Destroyer, Minmatar Destroyer. Same with the Battlecruisers skill, being removed and swapped with Amarr Battlecruiser, Caldari Battlecruiser, Gallente Battlecruiser and Minmatar Battlecruiser. The new skills will have the same ranks and attributes than the old generic ones. Reimbursement will be given to all players that meet all requirements to fly tech 1 Destroyers and Battlecruisers (more details on the last section of this blog).

The new racial Destroyer and Battlecruiser skills will be set as requirements to train larger ship classes. To compensate for the extra training steps, all prerequisites to hop into the next, larger tech 1 hull will be reduced from 4 to 3. To train Amarr Battleship at level1 right now, one has to train Amarr Frigate and Cruiser to 4, plus a few levels in Spaceship Command. After the change the same person will need to train Amarr Frigate 3, Amarr Destroyer 3, Amarr Cruiser 3 and Amarr Battlecruiser 3 (plus a few levels in Spaceship Command, still) before being able to reach Amarr Battleships.


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Destroyers and Battlecruisers, please fill your reimbursement form

That was for the easy part. As mentioned above, since we are splitting Destroyers and Battlecruisers skills in four, we need to make sure we reimburse those properly to follow the motto of “if you could fly it before, you can fly it now” that we have been stating for quite a while now.

To understand how we are going to proceed, it’s wiser to have a look at current ship requirement themselves.

At the moment on Tranquility, the Prophecy requires two skills to fly: Amarr Cruiser 3 and Battlecruiser 1. Thus, if you have these two skills when the change happens, we will give you Amarr Battlecruiser 1. Simple so far.

The trick is to remember that the Prophecy bonuses are based on the Battlecruiser skill. Thus, if you want to maximize the reimbursement, training Amarr Cruiser past 3 will do you little good. Aim for Battlecruisers 5 instead, as you will then get Amarr Battlecruiser 5.

It is noteworthy to point out that if you don’t have a racial Cruiser at 3, then you won’t receive the corresponding racial Battlecruiser skill. It is thus worthwhile to train all Racial Cruiser skill at 3, then focus on maximizing Battlecruisers before the reimbursement happens.

Since we are also in the process of removing tiers, the Oracle, Naga, Talos and Tornado skill requirements will be dropped from 3 to 1, so you don’t even need to go past Battlecruisers 1 if you wish to fly them after the reimbursement.

Still following? Good, now applies everything we have said before to Destroyers, you just need to replace racial Cruiser with racial Frigate instead.

In case you wonder, the skill reimbursement also includes:
• Removal and refund of all Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill books at the NPC order price.
• Partial skill training will be properly be saved and duplicated. If you are halfway between Destroyers 3 and 4 when the change hits, your progress will be properly copied to all the racial Destroyer skills you are eligible for.
• If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.
• Skill queues having Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser in-training will be paused at the time of the change. If you expect to be away for a long time when the reimbursement hits, please make sure you don’t train either of these skills.

However, we will not adjust clone level if the refund causes your total skill points to go above your current clone capacity. If you have Destroyer and Battlecruiser 5 trained, you should account for approximately 6.2 additional million skill points, thus we highly suggest you think about upgrading your clone accordingly, especially if you plan on going into hostile or remote space.


WRT the date: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eve+summer+2013+expansion
Dave Stark
#14 - 2013-04-14 10:57:37 UTC
Lord Haur wrote:
Quoting that dev blog,


inb4 complaining that you helped him.
Dave Stark
#15 - 2013-04-14 10:59:07 UTC
Elder Tarkin wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
asks for help.
complains when he gets it.

welcome to GD, folks.


I said thanks. I recieved all the information I needed.

My reply to RubyPorto was simply a reaction to him being snarky. I really am not complaining about the help I recieved and I don't see how you could have gotten that impression.


how was he being remotely snarky?
you said you weren't very good at googling, so he showed you exactly how to find what you were looking for.

not only did he spoon feed you the information, he demonstrated how you can find this information yourself in the future should you so need to.

if anything it was the most useful reply of the whole thread.
Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#16 - 2013-04-14 11:00:05 UTC
Elder Tarkin wrote:
They told us quite a while ago that they were changing things around and that we should start training cattlebruiser & destroyer to five because a skill book change was comming. I haven't seen or heard from it since.

I did some googling on it but I'm no expert googler and I found nothing good. So does anyone know? : )


+1 like for the word cattlebruiser.

The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity.

Elder Tarkin
The Projectiles Gentlemen's Club
#17 - 2013-04-14 11:06:49 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Elder Tarkin wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
asks for help.
complains when he gets it.

welcome to GD, folks.


I said thanks. I recieved all the information I needed.

My reply to RubyPorto was simply a reaction to him being snarky. I really am not complaining about the help I recieved and I don't see how you could have gotten that impression.


how was he being remotely snarky?
you said you weren't very good at googling, so he showed you exactly how to find what you were looking for.

not only did he spoon feed you the information, he demonstrated how you can find this information yourself in the future should you so need to.

if anything it was the most useful reply of the whole thread.


Since you know very well how such a reply could be found snarky I shall respond with a few questions.

Why do you find it so important to troll this thread? I don't see you as a person heavily deprived of attention so that can't be it. Is it so that your appetite for attention is insatiable or is your sunday really this boring?
Are you intentionally ignoring the post where I explained that I was originally looking for specifics and also admitting that I made a mistake when I did not say this?

Your replies are by far the least useful.
Praetor Meles
Black Mount Industrial
Breakpoint.
#18 - 2013-04-14 11:09:22 UTC
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
+1 like for the word cattlebruiser.


+1

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Dave Stark
#19 - 2013-04-14 11:16:51 UTC
Elder Tarkin wrote:
Your replies are by far the least useful.


you mistake me for some one who's here to be of use.

i'm simply here to point out that you're being an ungrateful sod. if you're going to be rude to people who help you, don't be surprised when you get called out on it.
Elder Tarkin
The Projectiles Gentlemen's Club
#20 - 2013-04-14 11:21:19 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Elder Tarkin wrote:
Your replies are by far the least useful.


you mistake me for some one who's here to be of use.

i'm simply here to point out that you're being an ungrateful sod. if you're going to be rude to people who help you, don't be surprised when you get called out on it.


Sounds legit. What would the forums be without you?
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