Player Features and Ideas Discussion

We really have looked at them. Fozzie was running level 4s yesterday easily in a pulse Apoc without sacrificing many slots. Not only can you run them, but you gain a lot of offensive capability because of the tracking bonus and the increased speed and agility.

I think you will find its not a very painful shift - but again, public testing will give us a better idea.

We are in a really difficult position of wanting to offer new options for Amarr pilots, despite them having 2 iconic ships and one fleet staple. That means no matter where we go (for instance if the Apoc had become the drone ship) someone is going to be unhappy.

Well, I would if I could, but I don't think the New Apoc is THAT far away from being great.

It would be interesting if they give the Apoc a massive cap pool, perhaps 3-4 times larger than most battleships, but it regenerated quite slowly. With CPR's it might be a bit too high... but then again that could provide some interesting options within the games current PVP meta.

read my whoel post damm. i am not against. I am just saying why CCP think itsa powerful You do not have to conveince me.

I thin ALL battleships need some sort of buff.

are you able to give us any indication on when we can expect to see these land on SiSi? By the sounds of it your at a point where you are fairly happy with the changes.

Did you ever got your pod inside any of the 3 battleships that are about to get killed?

Abaddon DOES get capped out from the GUNS only, you just sit there shoot something no mods/no tank running and you WILL get capped out VERY FAST


Correction: EVERY SINGLE ONE WILL BE FORCED TO FIT CAP BOOSTERS AS STATIC REQUIREMENT TO HIS AMARR BATTLESHIP

We were living OK with the ships currently, our Abaddon pilots made the life of the Guardian pilots as hell by whining for them for cap every second, now they will make them commit suicide by whining for cap AND repairs every half a second because of the reduced resists on the ship and not making up for that with an 8th low slot

That goes for the remaining 2 battleships with the bonus change on Apocalypse (basically it is now faster Abaddon from cap pov)
People have been flying Armageddon for 10 years as a DPS ship and it was THE BEST, simply changing that into Neudromissageddon is something not exactly good thing, and you tell us "You are happy that Amarr is finally getting good treatment" but in fact they are getting the Amarr BS line F'ed and I can only imagine who will be happy about that only who have never flown an Amarr BS or a troll (AND IT SEEMS THAT YOU SIR ARE BOTH OF THEM SO GO FLY WHATEVER OTHER RACE YOU ARE FLYING AND KEEP THE GLORY OF THE AMARR SHIPS TO WHO REALLY ADMIRES THEM)

Obviously you are not fully aware of the Amarr BS line and you need to spend sometime with it first then tell us to STFU


So you know but you did not "try" there is an insane difference between "I know" and "I flown Amarr ships and they are cap hungry"
And there is NO "but", there is no adaptation because we are already adapted to this currently, if we are asked to "adapt" more then basically we will not fly Amarr ships at all, and that is no way to happen because we fly Amarr ships because we DO WANT TO fly them not any other race (I don't want to fly yellow Dominix for the geddon case) I hate drones and if I wanted to love drones I would go fly the real greenish Dominix

Someone who flies Armageddon, has ZERO (or low) drones skills (as Amarr are not drones race) suddenly finds himself with a useless ship, and in order to make it useful again he need to spend 2+ weeks training for drones, 1 week training for neuts, 1 week training for missiles
I don't see how this is good for current AMARR battleships pilots

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Please don't talk about cruisers and specially navy cruisers while we are talking about T1 battleships

Cap stability is not an important issue as a PURE issue. Remember apoc will hit more so it will be more efficient per shot made. Therefore the overall reduction on capacitor efficiency should not be even close to the 50%.

This is actually the thing I'm personally most unsatisfied with. Part of my goals through the rebalance was to create more slot variation overall in battleships, and one of the best previous examples of this was the 8/3/8 Geddon. We had some versions of the Apoc with 8 lows, but in the end this layout seemed to fit best with the bonuses we wanted to go with. I'm convinced that the current lineup looks the healthiest of all the options we considered, and I expect the Navy BS to fill some of the gaps that still exist.

In eve there is no such new players with lvl 5 skills from the begining.
And
I did not see any over powering from the lvl5 version of 6 turret + 7.5% damage.
You go balance ship with lvl5 charactors, that is fine.
But when considering lvl4 missions, and for the god sake of new players, please consider the usability with low skills!

Being called Gallentean right after Gallente were saying we hate Gallente is pretty awesome.

You're right about the primary racial roles, but Amarr has been establishing a stronger drone representation throughout tiericide. Dragoon -> Arbitrator -> Prophecy. And Khanid has always existed as a missile focused division of Amarr. I don't think we are straying far at all from Amarr offensive system organization with this battleship line.