Player Features and Ideas Discussion

That typhoon is way over the top. Seven double bonused high power hardpoints makes it the highest DPS missile boat in the game, and adding 125 drone bandwidth is just a slap in the face to every other missile boat. That rivals the mach which is something that a normal battleship just should not do.

Remove the 5% damage per level, drop the drone bay size to 125-175 base, and add +15 m3 drone bay per level. That gives it the triple threat that people want. Moving a high power slot to a mid power slot added the flexibility to the typhoon that it needed, along with the base EHP buff.



The issue isn't which one is stronger, it's that they are way too similar. Other than tanking choice they were functional mirrors of each other in PvP.

Well... except for the turrets which will likely never get used.

You'll see one and know exactly what damage to expect: Missiles and drones. The tank will be a question but...

I'm still in favor of a 'Swis army' hull. Less high slots, but ones you can fill as you like, mods on missiles and projectiles, a good drone bay and enough mids and lows to choose your tank. The Phoon should be a wildcard.

What I do not get is why you gusy want so much use a turret just for using, even without any purpose?

Let the turret role for tempest and the mixed role for the faction typhoon.


II personally woudl never fit that turret . I do not even fit turret in current typhoon, because contrary to popular beleif, projectiles are not THE SUEPR AMAZING WEAPOSN OF DOOM, and torpedoes are still far more powerful.

Using missiles was always a secondary minmatar weapon system. Nothign wrong here. It snot like they are giving us a 105 drone bonus per level that woudl be completely out of character.

Theres no point in using gyrostabs when you can just max out on bcs and launchers.... a missile boat, and exactly what we're trying to avoid. I'd rather see the Phoon with its current ROF bonuses than a dull missile boat set.

Yeah I agree, but was thinking perhaps if you go for a shield fitting in the mids, you could go for three ballistic controls, two drone damage augmentors, and one gyrostab in the lows. It's not great, but you would have your tank sorted out in the mids, and then have loads of spare low slots to play with.

But essentially, whatever you do it is going to be missile dominant, and I can't see anyway around that myself.

Lol. When you put it like that.... :)

That's basically what we are getting right now, just a lone unbonused turret and 6 missiles.

One part of me thinks just get rid of the lone turret and high utility slot and add another mid instead. But then, that's basically just a Raven.

I don't understand why they made the new Republic Fleet Hurricane a copy of the old Hurricane.
Is the difference that much that deserved that treatment? It's not original at all... disappointing tbh.

On the Phoon perhaps, if they change the Phoon to a missile ship like they are planning to do, the *next* Typhoon Fleet Issue should really be an improved copy of the Typhoon we have today. The old Typhoon is a ship that deserves it.

And please, please, check Tempest mobility, just a little tiny buff in it...

Wouldn't that involve leaving it exactly as it is? (Edit: The Fleet Phoon already is just a normal Phoon with an extra low and fleet buffs)

Rise,

Please for the love of god give the pest more shield than armour. The phoon already makes a good armour BS, the tempest is best in shield config. It still needs a falloff bonus or another mid, or another low, but if nothing else at least give the extra armour into shield.

The Phoon, do what you did with the Navy Scythe, seriously it works for everyone. It gives people with only projectiles the opportunity to use it and people can still fit a full rack of launchers. I'd suggest keeping the drone bay intact, it's something that made this ship so versatile. Infact with the current changes, any versatility the phoon had will be lost, and that's sad.

The Typhoon is probably - or rather was - one of the most wild ships you could fly. You had three different weapon systems to choose from. There were so many different ways to fit it:

Hospital 'Phoon - RR configuration. Out of favor for a while now. You fell back on one high slot weapon system and your drones.
Neut 'Phoon - Same as above but with Neuts.
Disco 'Phoon - Smartbombing for everyone!
Nano 'Phoon - Make it go fast!
Brick 'Phoon - Weapons in all the high slots, as many plates as you could fit in the lows.

Torps - good damage against same size ships.
AC - Put a TC in the mid and 650s would rake cruiser sized ships quite well.

One of my favorite fits to this day for the ship was:
High:
650mm II x 4
Torp Arbalest Launcher x 4
Mid:
100MN MWD
Tracking Computer II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler
Low:
DC II
EANM II x 2
1600mm Rolled Tungsten x 4
Rigs:
Trimark x 3

Drones - Ogres II x 5, one flight each of Warrior II and Hobs II

The ship approached 1km/s (1390m/s overheated), had 160k EHP, and pushed 1k DPS even without any damage modules. On top of that - 320m sig radius.

I'm sad about this ship because I'm being told that it needs to be flown 'this way' and most of the other options are being stripped from it. There will be no drone bay to fall back upon. You only get one bonused weapon system. There are other ships that do the neut or RR thing better. All in all it will be a very predictable ship when you see it out in the field.