Live Events Discussion

I was hoping the planet would blow up. Not because of the Titan hit, but just because.

I think that Ishukone's a likely beneficiary of the contract because they were the ones that went on a limb to initiate this rapprochement between the Federation and the State. That said, I do sort of wonder why there wasn't at least a -little- bit more information given in the contract development, and a bit more time to stir sides and get lots of RAWRANGRYSPEECHES going in the IGS.

That said, I am sliiightly miffed over the Ishukone Scorpion thing. I mean, what was that about? So -- they got stolen (any player involvement?), then they ended up in a random pilot's hangar? Now, the pilot's active again -- so, was this a way to deliver a non-standard NEX item to a player who offered the PLEX/AUR for it? Or was this a GM/actor error (crap! put it in the wrong hangar! Umm! Guys! Write me a way out of this?!)? Or is it just a teaser for stuff coming down the pipe? I'm just confused. It seems -really- weird to give effectively unique items to a random player, with no competition or widespread lottery.

My character supports Ishukone (9.5 standing with the, and I can't have an Ishukone Watch uniform because they're only for dudes (?!), nor can I have an Ishukone Watch liveried ship because they're only for-- um, a random pilot just because? Huh?

I won't begrudge Jack DuVal his windfall, but it'd be really awesome if there was a way to get these ships. I'd totally be down for an LP store option for liveried ships, even if they have no advantage over the standard variant. Alternatively, an LP store variant that's equivalent to the faction's Navy ship would be very nifty -- allowing for some diversity in fancy ships, without changing existing mechanics overly much.

Otherwise, I do sort of wish that the Battle for CP didn't seem as railroaded as it was. The 'You decide!' tag-line was a bit non-ideal. Had CCP already prepared a Dust map in case of a Caldari victory? One with bunches of Moros on the planet? Or did they just expect that, when push came to shove, players would basically all band together to get on a Titan KM, so they didn't need to worry about a possible Caldari victory? (possibly set it to 0.0 status for a day, to allow other parties to cyno in capitals?)

Gotcha! S'all good, then. :)

(would still love more ways to bling out my character, of course. ;) )

I would hope (and perhaps even expect!) that we'll start seeing interesting political dealings within the State over Ishukone's administration of CP -- which provides a motive for a lot of intra-State dealings and skullduggery in the near future. More morally gray plottery, please! :D

That said, think of the CEWPA war less as a total war (think WW2, where nations would be conquered entirely at will) and more as, say, a colonial war, such as the various minor wars that happened in the Americas in the 1700s which caused changing control of colonies, but entailed no risk to the home countries.

To me, judging from the book Eve: Templar One, it is pretty obvious why the Federation and Ishukone got along so nicely, so 'quickly', and also why Mordu's Legion is the one getting the contract.
As I mentioned in the Live Events channel, I literally had to laugh out loudly when I read the part about Mordu's Legion taking over security.

But maybe that's just a coincidence, so feel free to correct me (Falcon?^^).

Agreeing with this pretty much 100%.

Ishukone might be better equipped to deal with the Federation, if only because they're willing to put their relationship with their peers on the line for international trade opportunities, but any one of the big eight surely cannot survive competitively without fertile markets and external stimulus.

I've always thought that the purely domestic market was the playground of subsidiaries of the big eight, with the eight themselves masterminding multi-entity conglomerates of companies inhabiting domestic, foreign and hybrid markets, not to mention the full on requirements of civil engineering, civil service management and all of the other inanity that goes with running a completely privatized society.

To paint Ishukone as 'the only ones capable' instead of 'possessing the wit, position and will to pursue an advantage to it's logical conclusion' does all of the megas, Ishukone especially, a disservice.

But Ishokone has signed into Heth's regime. All of the Mega's have opted into the CPD, including Ishukone (sure, they were the last to do so but they still folded) and if were talking about who's been most opposed to the CPD you ought to be looking at Hayasyoda which is been cited as Heth's biggest critic and adversary within the CEP.

Why is Ishukone supposedly special when it doesn't appear the other Megas with interests inside the State have been forced to scale back their operations because of the war?

No, I didn't fail to read Falcons post at all. I'm disagreeing with the notion he put forth. Disagreeing doesn't necessitate a failure in reading comprehension.

How exactly have the other alienated themselves from the Federation compared to the rest of the Megacorps? Ishukone is certainly proactive, but not alone in their dealings with the Federation in the least.

Ishukone also isn't the only one to oppose Heth, and they all certainly don't support him or the CPD. As mentioned, Hyasayoda has been identified as Heth's biggest critic and chief opponent, not Ishukone, who I certainly acknowledge as the most outspoken publicly but far from the only corporation to stand up to Heth.

The events following the battle happened in rapid succession and theres no evidence to suggest that the rest of the CEP sat back 'fuming at the evil Gallente stealing our planet again'. The State of Caldari Prime and peace seems to have been an issue for quite some time, as someone posted not too awful long ago in the IGS about debate in the CEP regarding the sheer cost of keeping the planet.

They may have been the last to sign into the CPD, but TEA made it very clear that all but the Patriot Block were essentially shoehorned into agreeing to support the CPD.

Apologies, I must have misconstrued what I was attempting to say. I was just pointing out that Ishukone isn't alone in its defiance of Heth and I don't see how the others are alienated from the Federation. Ishukone is very opportunistic, but aside from maybe the Patriots and Sukuveesta what have the others done to alienate themselves? We rarely hearanything from the other corporations outside of Ishukone, KK and recently Lai Dai.

I agree Ishukone fits the bill better in terms of negotiating with the Senate and all, certainly, but thats not what I was hitting at? My point is that it doesn't make sense (to me) that the CEP would just hand over administration of the Caldari Prime to Ishukone in its entirety. They make a sensible vessel to deal with the Federation with, but the end result doesn't strike me as realistic given the States nature.

I would personally say that the reason ishukone got the 'contract' is because the Senate would not trust any of the other megas.

Ishukone on the other hand have spent the past few years dealing honourably with Intaki, and not taking the planet and raping it for resources as Heth likely wanted them to.

to cut a long story short, Ishukone have been rebuilding the bridges that Heth burned. The other megacorps have not.