Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So if the Slicer won't go to a 2/3/5 or 3/3/4 fitting layout, when you get a chance think you could add some new navy frigates with the Imperial Navy one having 3 mids? Thanks!

Imho Firetail should, instead of recieving a HP bonus recieve a bigger buff to CPU.

It has 4 Mid-slots so very much use for it.

Just compare it to other frigates:
(new) Firetail: 150tf CPU

FN Comet : 3 mids but 160tf CPU.
Condor: 4 mid but 185tf (!) CPU.
Merlin: 4 mid but 180tf CPU.


Imho the Minmatar Faction frig could use more flexibility (in fitting) instead of being buffed in the tank department. Right now I could imagine a whole bunch of interesting fittings that would be nice to fly but simply arent possible (unless maybe with Deadspace modules).

Try fitting a 200mm AC + TD Slasher for example ...

That's Amarr design language. Get a Slicer instead.

especially if you consider that they are nerfing Tracking Enhancers so kiting will not work on a slicer anyway....

Bah slicer is fine.

It is powerful in its role. The TE adjustment won't hurt it a great deal. The 'utility' high allows the few of use who dare to try alternitive fits. Leave it there Fozzie and don't pander to the uninformed masses trying to force it into one role and one role only.

Good to see the firetail get some love and it should be a good boat with the new stats, not OP be able to compete nicely.

if only the firetail had a falloff bonus instead of tracking, it might actually be useful ship to fly.

need more ships able to mwd kite outside of scram range, minmatar is all about kiting

CCP
I hope when you get to pirate frigs you will give them the extra slot... they would benefit from having the extra slot for the myriad of bonuses they get for e-war

Okay...
after playing with eft and with my own experience I have only to say: Total c...p.
Point.


Slicer is still too weak. There isnt even 1 possible slicer fit that could kill a 150mm rail buffer comet.
Hook will be castrated to brawler because it is too slow and unmaneuverable for kiting (yep I am VERY experienced with the hook).
Of course booster fags have the possibility to kite even with a noobship^^
Still don´t get any hook/slicer brawler/kiter fit that would survive a 10.5 ehp 165dps 150rail-comet...
Firetail... no clue...

But the comet is overoveroverpowered.
After overpowered algos + overpowered tristan... oh yeah I forgot we are going towards gallente online.

edit: only hook I can imagine that is able to survive a 150mm rail armor buffer comet is maybe a double td brawler. Maybe. It would be extremely tight.

Awe Boo f'king Hoo!

Someone brought up my stats on eve kill, Yeehaw that mean everything!

You do realise that that is the stats for last month only don't you?

For the record the slicer is my 16th most used ship. the details which I keep for MY records only on my own personal KB.

Now that aside.

I often flew the slicer in a brawling configuration in a similar manner to how I fly my punishers which is my 4th overall ship used. The slicer makes a passable brawler if you don't mind actually commiting to a fight. People just need to think outside the box and not be a sheep!

The firetail will ne a nice ship with these changes. Competant pilots may even make it seem OP as if you can fly them now they can kill a lot of **** handlily as they are. But the the general pilot they will be competative but not OP with is where I feel most of the frig world (T1 & navy) is at currently.
All the posts about 'oh no my XXX is getting owned by YYY' are pretty much people not fully uderstanding the weaknesses of their chosen ship and fitting/flying accordingly.

Yeah, few realise what power that 4th mid on the Tail gives them .. was an absolute thrill/horror to fight before (mainly because only good pilots flew it, the ones in the know) and will be the biggest damn pain in the arse with more more damage .. mainly because more are likely to try it out.

Much like the early Hooks that flew around, was the elite doing it to start and when the rabble saw what can be done with five mids on a frig the bandwagon needed several more carriages to hold all the people swarming it.

Comet could do with a little less grid though, the sacrifice for oversizing the plate (yes, 400 on a frig is oversized!) are way too light, should be a choice between downgrading guns or using a second fitting mod/rig.

Yes please to finding somewhere else to put that Slicer utility .. or rather what is the antonym of utility, because it is never actually used now that everything of value for a frig can be found with onboard scanner (used to online/offline a probe launcher as needed).