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Bring back my drone POO! 10% of systems with poo!
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BEPOHNKA
Ner Vod Fleet Systems
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2013-04-07 15:39:29 UTC  |  Edited by: BEPOHNKA
Abrazzar wrote:
Or, once the amount of existing drone poo has been sufficiently drained, reintroduce it as the required building material for a set of drone specific modules and (modified) ships, which blueprints you can get from (faction) drones and complexes.

Edit: To make it clear, the new drone poo will not reprocess into minerals.




Even if it's don't crashed in too minerals could be easy used to build ships. How would this be different tho if you could crash them you know? Any view is welcome thanks! for more ideas! Problem is no one idea can fit to everyone options! But we can at least try!
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#22 - 2013-04-07 15:41:34 UTC
BEPOHNKA wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Alloys pretty much destroyed the mineral market as well as made a large chunk of 0.0 undesirable to many. With your idea it will still have a negative impact on mineral prices as well as make drone regions undesirable for most.



I see your point and good stand point of view! I wish we had some type of trial program we can do this with ! you know?


They did and it failed.

If CCP where to try and make differences among areas of space, I wouldn't disagree with say larger amounts of ring mining sites in Drone, compared to say increased number of DED sites in another, and increased comet harvesting in another.

This would ofc imply CCP ever adds in ring mining and/or comet harvesting.

However the problem with rats and alloy drops is it hard to control a infinite amount of available spawns which spew out minerals. Bounties for rats are much easier to control, and relaying on roids and being finite helps control mineral supply(which I doubt they look into much anyways).

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#23 - 2013-04-07 16:21:16 UTC
BEPOHNKA wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Alloys pretty much destroyed the mineral market as well as made a large chunk of 0.0 undesirable to many. With your idea it will still have a negative impact on mineral prices as well as make drone regions undesirable for most.



I see your point and good stand point of view! I wish we had some type of trial program we can do this with ! you know?


It was tried for 6 years. It wrecked the eve economy and caused the blight of cheap supercaps that still causes problems to do and will for years to come.

tl;dr: No.

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#24 - 2013-04-07 21:07:11 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
I think that CCP just found it easier to remove the drone drops than actually fix the botting that was the real problem there.


Sadly I agree with you. Seems to be a common theme, too: Is it broke? Don't bother fixing it, just throw it out and add SHINY! NEW! (and also broken) stuff in it's place.

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Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-04-07 21:28:05 UTC
Combat pilots have their place in the game, but they shouldn't be replacing other professions. If you want to stockpile minerals you should have to mine.
Frying Doom
#26 - 2013-04-07 21:51:29 UTC
No Poo For You!

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#27 - 2013-04-07 21:56:14 UTC
Sure. As long as it doesn't yield any kind of minerals or other materials currently used in manufacturing, by all means, bring it back.
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#28 - 2013-04-07 22:11:40 UTC
CCP could make boting with ventures legal and easy, and make ventures legal targets anywhere. It would be interesting to see how the bot AI's compare to the drone AI. And it would be just like the good old days of gun mining.
BEPOHNKA
Ner Vod Fleet Systems
Goonswarm Federation
#29 - 2013-04-19 12:41:07 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Sure. As long as it doesn't yield any kind of minerals or other materials currently used in manufacturing, by all means, bring it back.


Maybe it could be used to build something new in the game, even if it did yield minerals it would not make much of a different if you mine for it vs shoot for the mines. with only 10% of the systems came back to life!
BEPOHNKA
Ner Vod Fleet Systems
Goonswarm Federation
#30 - 2013-04-19 12:43:04 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
CCP could make boting with ventures legal and easy, and make ventures legal targets anywhere. It would be interesting to see how the bot AI's compare to the drone AI. And it would be just like the good old days of gun mining.



Adding botting to the game will hurt it and CCP currently not have any problems find people who do it so it wont be allowed for years to come.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#31 - 2013-04-19 12:44:08 UTC
BEPOHNKA wrote:
even if it did yield minerals it would not make much of a different if you mine for it vs shoot for the mines.
Yes it would. It would once again reduce the value of mining. Not a good thing.
The removal of drone poo as a mineral source was one of the best changes ever.
BEPOHNKA
Ner Vod Fleet Systems
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2013-04-19 12:45:15 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
No Poo For You!



I my still get it just yet but not like the old drone poo! I may even win the fight to get it back in small mounts of rare systems in eve which would allow extra income base on other then "bounties" would be nice!

The land should be fought for now the moons! by changing the land in which we gain our income, this is what should be fought for no more moon goo! Alliances are made up of corps and members, give back to the members and just find ways to tax them to hell for the income!
BEPOHNKA
Ner Vod Fleet Systems
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2013-04-19 12:47:52 UTC
Tippia wrote:
BEPOHNKA wrote:
even if it did yield minerals it would not make much of a different if you mine for it vs shoot for the mines.
Yes it would. It would once again reduce the value of mining. Not a good thing.
The removal of drone poo as a mineral source was one of the best changes ever.



I understand your feeling in the end but if it did ever come back, it would not be the same mount of income, and would be lot less in the future. or the same have to see what it could bring. In the end i'm hoping to bring come type of rare systems which more alliances could fight over vs the moon goo. It could be a nice systems to replace the passive income too letting the players gain from them in small mounts of rare systems.
dark heartt
#34 - 2013-04-19 13:11:29 UTC
My my aren't we a special poster. No the drone drops killed actual mining last time. If you want to have minerals, fit a mining ship and shoot rocks like the rest of us. Or just shoot the rats and reprocess the drops. Sure its not a huge amount of minerals that you get, but you aren't mining in the first place, so you don't deserve better drops.

Once again this will never be implemented.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-04-19 15:55:41 UTC
BEPOHNKA wrote:
Tippia wrote:
BEPOHNKA wrote:
even if it did yield minerals it would not make much of a different if you mine for it vs shoot for the mines.
Yes it would. It would once again reduce the value of mining. Not a good thing.
The removal of drone poo as a mineral source was one of the best changes ever.



I understand your feeling in the end but if it did ever come back, it would not be the same mount of income, and would be lot less in the future. or the same have to see what it could bring. In the end i'm hoping to bring come type of rare systems which more alliances could fight over vs the moon goo. It could be a nice systems to replace the passive income too letting the players gain from them in small mounts of rare systems.


You don't seem to understand that no matter how much less than beore it yield or how many less sytem would have it, it would still davalue mining. As for the non apssive income from shooting drones, you can tax bounty more easyly than minerals getting re-processed so bounty on dorne works better than drone poo if you want the "farm the fields" approach to alliance funding.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#36 - 2013-04-19 15:59:57 UTC
Why is it that these threads are posted in GD, when they should be put into F&I?

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Alec Freeman
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2013-04-19 19:26:58 UTC
I really hate what they did with drone poo. At the same time they reduce the amount of minerals made in the game and add in more bounties, a double barreled bump for inflation. Now capital hulls cost twice as much a tier 3 bs's almost as much as tech 3s
Octoven
Stellar Production
#38 - 2013-04-19 19:32:22 UTC
Absolutely not, drone poo is one of the detrimental effects to the mineral market that im glad they got rid of. If you want minerals...mine them out of asteroids as the original design of the game intended. Trade your drone bashing carrier in for a mining ship. Why should you earn minerals with defensive combat systems on your ship when miners have no such option?

Don't like it....go play wow, I hear they need some more copper miners over there.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#39 - 2013-04-19 21:25:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Rinn
BEPOHNKA wrote:
I see your point and good stand point of view! I wish we had some type of trial program we can do this with ! you know?


We did have a trial program of drone poo. It's over, and the game is better for having drone poo removed.

I would have liked to see something original happen, like have different faction ships drop certain items that contribute towards invention/reverse engineering to allow players to manufacture high-meta T1 items. In the end, getting rid of drone poo was more important that adding new invention options.

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