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No shipwrecks at gates anymore
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Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
#1 - 2013-04-06 12:33:09 UTC
When I came to EVE 2007 there was lots of capsuleer shipwrecks at high sec gates and near stations. One "profession" I took was that I salvaged those shipwrecks and got isk from them. Nowadays I rarely see shipwrecks at highsec gates or near highsec stations.

I created this thread to ask what has changed in recent years? Why shipwrecks have vanished? Has there been decrease in shipwreck despawn timers or something like that?

Mikhem

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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-04-06 12:34:18 UTC
Fewer gankers. Try near jita, they'll be centralised there - although you'll probably have to fight the professional gankers to get at the wrecks before they get looted and salvaged.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#3 - 2013-04-06 12:38:10 UTC
HiSec has grown increasingly dangerous for Gankers. Look near ice belts if you want wrecks to salvage.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#4 - 2013-04-06 13:06:56 UTC
Mikhem wrote:

I created this thread to ask what has changed in recent years? Why shipwrecks have vanished? Has there been decrease in shipwreck despawn timers or something like that?



They adapted so they do not die.

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snake pies
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society
#5 - 2013-04-06 13:15:03 UTC
more people have trained salvagers and aren't afraid to loot and run
Pepper Mind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-04-06 13:19:27 UTC
Wrecks can camp now, cloaked
baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#7 - 2013-04-06 13:20:14 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Mikhem wrote:

I created this thread to ask what has changed in recent years? Why shipwrecks have vanished? Has there been decrease in shipwreck despawn timers or something like that?



They adapted so they do not die.


They have done no such thing. We simply salvage the stuff ourselves.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#8 - 2013-04-06 13:26:35 UTC
I kinda noticed this too, tbh. There is not nearly as much stuff floating aound gates as a few years ago.

If I was in my Prowler, I'd salvage most of the time, but I just don't see the wrecks anymore.

Best ever was a Blue Can by a gate in Genesis. Upon opening it contained 4 6-Packs of Quafe Zero. Strange thing to deliberately abandon for sure.

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Rengerel en Distel
#9 - 2013-04-06 13:47:13 UTC
So you saw an opportunity to make nearly risk free isk, and assumed no one else EVER would decide to do the same thing? Okay.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#10 - 2013-04-06 13:48:46 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
So you saw an opportunity to make nearly risk free isk, and assumed no one else EVER would decide to do the same thing? Okay.




Who exactly is this aimed at. Makes no sense tbh.

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Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#11 - 2013-04-06 13:59:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelique Duchemin
Other people are taking the wrecks. Simple as that.


A lot of warships bring salvage drones these days too.

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Turelus
Utassi Security
#12 - 2013-04-06 14:59:08 UTC
Head over to the Onirvura constellation and wait for Red vs Blue to have a fight, you'll find some wrecks! Big smile

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-04-06 15:18:05 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
They adapted so they do not die.

By learning to yell "daddy I made a poopoo, new nappy please", not by making any actual changes in how they themselves do things.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#14 - 2013-04-06 16:08:08 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
They adapted so they do not die.

By learning to yell "daddy I made a poopoo, new nappy please", not by making any actual changes in how they themselves do things.


Actually, my comment is simply a lame joke.

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-04-06 16:20:28 UTC
Much more players now than in 2007 (even really isn't dying).

More players results in more competition.

More competition results in less wrecks to be salvaged.

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University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-04-06 20:06:28 UTC
Mikhem wrote:
When I came to EVE 2007 there was lots of capsuleer shipwrecks at high sec gates and near stations. One "profession" I took was that I salvaged those shipwrecks and got isk from them. Nowadays I rarely see shipwrecks at highsec gates or near highsec stations.

I created this thread to ask what has changed in recent years? Why shipwrecks have vanished? Has there been decrease in shipwreck despawn timers or something like that?


because of noctis there are few wrecks on gates in high sec

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Rengerel en Distel
#17 - 2013-04-07 00:37:38 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
So you saw an opportunity to make nearly risk free isk, and assumed no one else EVER would decide to do the same thing? Okay.




Who exactly is this aimed at. Makes no sense tbh.


Sorry, guess i should have quoted the OP when making a response to his thread.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-04-07 00:40:12 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
They adapted so they do not die.

By learning to yell "daddy I made a poopoo, new nappy please", not by making any actual changes in how they themselves do things.


Brit even...

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Hessian Arcturus
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-04-07 03:07:00 UTC
Wasn't it true that you also couldn't warp to zero on a gate unless you had a bookmark saved? I don't know when that changed as I didn't play EVE until this year. But wouldn't that be a benefactor?

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Da Dom
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-04-08 21:24:51 UTC
You should have seen it when they introduced the dueling mechanic.

Wrecks were everywhere...

Because Far-que... That's why.
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