Jita Park Speakers Corner

Its a start and at least that is a good thing. I too would like to see work on the security.

But all I have to say is that without Two Step and this thread we would have gotten, Nothing. Again Thank you Two Step.

Sounds really good. I just hope when they say more fighting over thing we get reasons that is not just shinies and isk dominance. More latteral integration is vital to shake things up. Also smart integration of aspects. We need a little more feeling of speed and feeling of accomplishment per time increment.

Oh and a personal WTF. Why can we have a link out of client on splash and in the code, but not a ctrl+click on links to go outside client when browsing? How hard it that to add to the game? Either that or open for some flash in the IGB for Gods sake. YouTube, twitch etc..

Definitely better than we would have gotten out of some of the rest of OUR CSM members.

I would troll this post ...... but I'm too upset with CCP to attempt it.

The CEO take option is only natural, and should really be considered. Especially because it would also be a potential update for station hangars. A personal division hangar showing in your personal inventory but granting access to corp would make a lot more sense than current function. Your corp should not be able to look into your personal assets, but in your personal division only, and with take option for CEO.

See longer post PDH

Has anyone brought up the personal aspect of the player owned station in this thread yet? I want to own my own pos, without connection to my corp. If I change corp, then I still control the pos. If a director gets greedy and wants the stuff in my pos, then he actually has to siege it, unless I give him permissions to access it.

A change which I think is needed is that when you cancel a long ME process the BPO is returned but the queue stays active till the original process time expires so even if you cancel a job, you can't reuse the job queue.

First point before I get into POSes. The only thing that is keeping CCP alive as a company isn't the fact that they have a great Product, or awesome customer service. Its the fact that the players are loyal to a game that they have devoted time to and have built relationships in. Eventually that will end at which point CCP will either have to think up something or start producing lack luster graphical garbage that other gaming genre's like fighting, FPS, and Action Adventure games have become in order to survive. This will give the masses of younger gamers, who have never had the privilege of experiencing a real game or civil social interaction in a game, something to do with their lives to escape the pressures of their families and the industrialization of the schooling system. Anyway moving on.

Ya know I think the most amusing thing about a POS is the fact that CCP named it "Player Owned Star-base" when in reality a player in an NPC corp can't even anchor one. In order to anchor a POS you must be part of a player corp. The skills required to anchor a POS are a joke, level 1 anchoring takes all of 1 hour and 15 minutes if that to train up. Instead you have to grind to get your standings up with a faction, in the process destroy your standings with all the other factions if you wish to anchor in empire space low or high. Oh yeah almost forgot its not just the single player's standings that matter. It is the entire corp of which that player's character belongs to as well as the alliance to which that corp belongs to. Which brings me to yet another amusing thought. What the heck can an alliance with one corps POS do? Rent a research slot? maybe.... have fun setting that one up....they can't use manufacturing slots they can't use corp hangers, might be able to use the fitting abilities, they can't use refining arrays. So they can hide behind the POS shield bubble .....whoopity frak'n do....Another laugh is the abilities you get with a POS. So you can research things at a cost that exceeds any station research cost by atleast double most of the time more depending on the size of POS you are using. So you can manufacture things you can do the same in a station for cheaper, take the same amount of time, and the same amount of materials. So you can store things, 1.4mil m3 is nothing compared to the infinite space in a station. So you can fit ships, you can do that if you are near any ship that has a maintenance bay.

Anyway Things that you can do only with a POS is moon mine, build super capitals, create a jump bridge, and conduct material reactions. All of which are limited, which means that only a small number of people utilize the full potential of the POS.

Alright things that if done in addition to what the dev-blog http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/odyssey-summer-expansion-starbase-iterations/ (which we all know is a bunch of words until we see physical proof) lists would further improve upon a POS, while keeping balance in the game and minimizing time spent on the project.

1.) Allow a Launching system similar to that of a GSC for the POS (Launch for Self, Corp, Alliance) this would allow the anchoring requirements to be based of You, Your Corp, or the Alliance you Belong too. You can still restrict it so that you only anchor if you are in a player corp.
2.) Have an option added to the POS to allow for onlining of player owned structures, corp owned structures, or alliance owned structures based off the Launching system. (So for example if you Launch for Alliance, other corps in your alliance could online a Structure attached to your POS. However you could go further as to have an allocation of POS resources for each corp. Initially your corp would have 100% of the POS Resources with you as the POS manager Recieving 100% of the POS resources [ POS Resources being CPU and Power-grid])
3.) In addition to Private Hangers for Corp/Alliance hangers the POS Manager would have complete access to all hangers
4.) Corp/Alliance Hangers Should have minimal Resource consumption (1 CPU 1 Power-grid) and be of Sufficient size (100mil m3 or 1bil m3)
5.) Ship maintenance bays should also have minimal Resource consumption (1 CPU 1 Power-grid)
6.) As stated many times through out this form There needs to be a re-balancing between the refining Arrays on a POS and a Station a Station should have a lower Base then a POS also the POS refining array should be instant or take at least a 1/10th of the time it currently does.
7.) Also as stated many times through out this form there needs to be re-balancing between Assembly arrays on a POS and manufacturing slots on a station. The Assembly arrays on a POS should be not only quicker but consume even less materials then a station, Control tower resources should be lowered as well.

8.) Research Labs: This one is by itself because it seriously needs to get fixed. First Remove them completely from Stations. They are almost never used in low and null, and its usually 60+ days to get an open slot in high sec not to mention the fact that its way cheaper then any POS. The Labs themselves need to be fixed as well, 1 copy slot, 3 ME, 3 PE and 5 invention really CCP? You can Leave the ME and the PE slots alone but swap the Copy and the Invention. so it would be 5 Copy, 3 ME, 3 PE and 1 Invention slot for the Standard lab. For the Experimental Lab you could have 5 Invention, 3 Copy no ME or PE. And for Reverse Engineering Labs 3 Reverse Engineering, 1 Copy. Drug labs......1 slot......seriously c'mon....atleast give us what drone assembly array has give us 10 or maybe even half that 5 slots.

9.) Allow Material Reactions "Anywhere". What is so bad about reacting materials in high sec anyway? Heck When you are removing the research slots from the stations put in Reaction slots in the station.

It seems like in the new model of corp hangar you can not move stuff from your hangar to another persons hangar. That will make thigs really difficult. If whole corp is making fuel from PI, they need to be online at the same time to be able to move stuff? Of use containers like before to leave stuff for other members? That doesnt seem very convinient.

Also as the game is fast phased and you should log in every day to check things, many players can not do that. In the new model the maintenance persons (corp directors) can not move other peoples stuff safe if the pos is attacked. That means billions of isks lost if you can not log in every day. Especially in a wormhole where you dont always have exit anywhere near a station the stuff keeps pileing.

Other than these 2 things all the changes are great! Really looking forward to try them.

Yeah those are things I'd like to see but for some reason I think our requests are falling on deaf ears. Glad to see some changes though not exactly what again in my opinion I'd like to see but at least its a move in the right direction for once.