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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#41 - 2013-04-03 18:38:07 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
In the US, it's HFCS or beet sugar. Beet sugar I don't mind. HFCS sux.


HFCS is an even greater general health danger than toxic-caloried chain pizza

Agreed. Milk fats are at least something that most peoples' bodies can process. HFCS is in damned near everything* and your body isn't evolved to process it well. Most folks don't get too damaged by it, but some (one of my nephews and two of my nieces) get very bad reactions to it. Others are just being slowly injured by it.


* For example.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#42 - 2013-04-03 18:47:43 UTC
Speaking of HFCS and Pizza Hut: it appears at at least some point, Pizza Hut was using it:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-44040651/pizza-hut-quietly-hops-off-the-all-natural-bandwagon/

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#43 - 2013-04-03 19:04:24 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
Speaking of HFCS and Pizza Hut: it appears at at least some point, Pizza Hut was using it:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-44040651/pizza-hut-quietly-hops-off-the-all-natural-bandwagon/



These chains are just truly evil.

And we are all literally paying for it, whether we eat their crap or not.

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Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2013-04-03 19:13:13 UTC
I liked the cheesy bites pizza and the dipper pizzas they had. I think the cheesy bites was tested in Japan before it came here. I remember seeing it in Code Geass.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#45 - 2013-04-03 19:50:13 UTC
Jada Maroo wrote:
I think the cheesy bites was tested in Japan before it came here.



That's really odd. Asians are particularly averse to cheese still.

There is a great episode of Nova on PBS about the senses, and they had an Asian family tackle a wheel of Stilton, and an American family tackle a plate of 1,000 Year Old Eggs.

Much retching at first, but within 20 minutes both sides were happily munching away !

But testing a cheese product in Japan, I still think is an odd idea.

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#46 - 2013-04-03 19:51:07 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
making milk in Tampa essentially indistinguishable from milk in Seatle.



It's funny that you say that.

Taste is indeed the same, but in the over a year I've lived in Tampa, I've noticed the milk here goes sour without fail a few days before expiration. Different brands, even. It's a real scam tbh, and this was never an issue in Arkansas, Texas, or California for me.

100% guaranteed to happen with milk bought in Florida so far for me at least.

edit: Actually most everything here sucks, but I won't post my ever-growing whine list about Florida here...........

Anyway, my solution finally was to buy the quart sized 1/2 & 1/2, as I use milk in recipes and never for raw drinking or cereal. I just dilute it 3:1 and it works like a charm, and I can usually finish it before it goes bad. Milk itself I have yet to see in any of the grocery stores around here in quart size, which is really strange. Needless to say, there is a lot of that half-gallon wasted indeed.

Publix stores has quarts, but they are too far away from me to be practical (and more expensive).


One of the American weirdnesses that shock me the most, it's the habit of selling milk by the gallon... how can they drink so much milk fast enough that it won't expire? What?
Rain6637
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-04-03 19:57:10 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#48 - 2013-04-03 19:57:20 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


One of the American weirdnesses that shock me the most, it's the habit of selling milk by the gallon... how can they drink so much milk fast enough that it won't expire? What?



The Beef and Dairy Industries (read: cartels) here in America are seriously ruthless. They heavily promoted milk as the best thing ever especially in the 50's and 60's. It's seriously not that good for you and a high number of people cannot digest it at all. I just need some for cooking here and there.

I'm just glad that in the past 8 years or so a lot of the falacies invented by the American food industry are being exposed for the money-making propaganda that they are. And the same thing is happening in Europe as they are slowly finding out in light of the Horse Meat Thingy.

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Rain6637
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#49 - 2013-04-03 20:02:22 UTC
if I think I need calcium I get the fortified orange juice. it's delish

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jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#50 - 2013-04-03 20:02:55 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


One of the American weirdnesses that shock me the most, it's the habit of selling milk by the gallon... how can they drink so much milk fast enough that it won't expire? What?



The Beef and Dairy Industries (read: cartels) here in America are seriously ruthless. They heavily promoted milk as the best thing ever especially in the 50's and 60's. It's seriously not that good for you and a high number of people cannot digest it at all. I just need some for cooking here and there.

I'm just glad that in the past 8 years or so a lot of the falacies invented by the American food industry are being exposed for the money-making propaganda that they are. And the same thing is happening in Europe as they are slowly finding out in light of the Horse Meat Thingy.



too damn true ...the frozen food industry here in the Uk has taken a right bloody hammering .. one only has to go to the frozen food section to see the amount of packages that are stacked up ..and none is touching them ...or in other cases supermarkets have just given up ..and left them bare .
TBh i dont really think its the fact that horse meat was in the food per-se ...its the fact that its been mis-sold to us ...and it recently transpires that the fishing industry is under scrutiny atm aswell Roll.... im just wondering if this is just the bloody tip of the iceberg .
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#51 - 2013-04-03 20:03:34 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
it's not for single people


It's only for duplicated people then ?

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#52 - 2013-04-03 20:05:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
jason hill wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


One of the American weirdnesses that shock me the most, it's the habit of selling milk by the gallon... how can they drink so much milk fast enough that it won't expire? What?



The Beef and Dairy Industries (read: cartels) here in America are seriously ruthless. They heavily promoted milk as the best thing ever especially in the 50's and 60's. It's seriously not that good for you and a high number of people cannot digest it at all. I just need some for cooking here and there.

I'm just glad that in the past 8 years or so a lot of the falacies invented by the American food industry are being exposed for the money-making propaganda that they are. And the same thing is happening in Europe as they are slowly finding out in light of the Horse Meat Thingy.



too damn true ...the frozen food industry here in the Uk has taken a right bloody hammering .. one only has to go to the frozen food section to see the amount of packages that are stacked up ..and none is touching them ...or in other cases supermarkets have just given up ..and left them bare .
TBh i dont really think its the fact that horse meat was in the food per-se ...its the fact that its been mis-sold to us ...and it recently transpires that the fishing industry is under scrutiny atm aswell Roll.... im just wondering if this is just the bloody tip of the iceberg .


I posted during the horse meat thing about a huge test of fish done in California grocery stores and sushi restaurants and a whopping 80% of the time the fish was utterly and badly mislabeled.

Yes, it's just starting.

edit: they have been getting away for decades with poisoning and lies. When Alice Water's started her sustainable, local "Chez Panisse" in Berkeley in 1976, and with good reason, most people thought she was just being hippy-dippy crazy.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#53 - 2013-04-03 20:17:30 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
making milk in Tampa essentially indistinguishable from milk in Seatle.



It's funny that you say that.

Taste is indeed the same, but in the over a year I've lived in Tampa, I've noticed the milk here goes sour without fail a few days before expiration. Different brands, even. It's a real scam tbh, and this was never an issue in Arkansas, Texas, or California for me.

100% guaranteed to happen with milk bought in Florida so far for me at least.

edit: Actually most everything here sucks, but I won't post my ever-growing whine list about Florida here...........

Anyway, my solution finally was to buy the quart sized 1/2 & 1/2, as I use milk in recipes and never for raw drinking or cereal. I just dilute it 3:1 and it works like a charm, and I can usually finish it before it goes bad. Milk itself I have yet to see in any of the grocery stores around here in quart size, which is really strange. Needless to say, there is a lot of that half-gallon wasted indeed.

Publix stores has quarts, but they are too far away from me to be practical (and more expensive).


One of the American weirdnesses that shock me the most, it's the habit of selling milk by the gallon... how can they drink so much milk fast enough that it won't expire? What?
As noted - that's mostly for families. Mine goes through a gallon every three days or so. Truthfully, I'm the main drinker.

When I was a growing lad, I could easily drink a gallon a day, if allowed - I'm tall and broad-shouldered - and was then too, plus was still filling out my musculature. Combine that with five to seven hours of sports practice a day (depending on sports season), and you might understand that I could burn a LOT of fuel. Easier to drink my fuel than cook it.
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Rain6637 wrote:
if I think I need calcium I get the fortified orange juice. it's delish

Dairy milk is not a particularly good source of calcium. It'll serve, but there are better options. Like your fortified orange juice (which is even more dear than milk!).
That said, I have bones like ivory - dense, heavy, and strong.* Even in situations where I *should* have broken bones, I've never managed to actually break one. Mind you, sports had a lot to do with that, too.



* Made parts of my life in the Nav kinda interesting. I swim passably well, but only *just* float. Pissed the boot camp instructors off no end when I proved incapable of doing a survival float in classic form. Bone too heavy, muscles too heavy - I float straight up-and-down with about an inch of the top of my head poking above water. It'a actually very efficient from a survival point of view, requiring the very slightest leg motion to pop up and breath, but NEVER tell that to an angry and confused Chief Petty Officer!

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#54 - 2013-04-03 20:27:38 UTC
...and Silens gets 50,000,000 ISK for being my 4,000th "Like".

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#55 - 2013-04-03 20:29:28 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
...and Silens gets 50,000,000 ISK for being my 4,000th "Like".

Thank you, kind Sir!

Much appreciate folks as who post well.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#56 - 2013-04-03 20:33:07 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


One of the American weirdnesses that shock me the most, it's the habit of selling milk by the gallon... how can they drink so much milk fast enough that it won't expire? What?



The Beef and Dairy Industries (read: cartels) here in America are seriously ruthless. They heavily promoted milk as the best thing ever especially in the 50's and 60's. It's seriously not that good for you and a high number of people cannot digest it at all. I just need some for cooking here and there.

I'm just glad that in the past 8 years or so a lot of the falacies invented by the American food industry are being exposed for the money-making propaganda that they are. And the same thing is happening in Europe as they are slowly finding out in light of the Horse Meat Thingy.


Frankly, I just don't care any longer about "shocking truths" from food industry. Foods are targetted to be praised or berrated based solely on commercial interests.

Now it's the turn for milk to be berrated. Pure poison, which my people has been drinking for centuries. Roll

Do you know what's funny? Many human lack the enzymes needed to digest non-human milk. Yet, the average european can digest it as long as they don't stop digesting non-human milk for a long period. And i call that evolution. The ones who couldn't digest non-human milk, died more often. Our ancestors adapted to drinking non-human milk, period, and here we are, drinking milk and healthy, as the ones who died FROM drinking milk, those were pooled off too.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#57 - 2013-04-03 20:37:24 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


Do you know what's funny? Many human lack the enzymes needed to digest non-human milk. Yet, the average european can digest it as long as they don't stop digesting non-human milk for a long period. And i call that evolution. The ones who couldn't digest non-human milk, died more often. Our ancestors adapted to drinking non-human milk, period, and here we are, drinking milk and healthy, as the ones who died FROM drinking milk, those were pooled off too.

Differing population groups differ from that profile. Some of which population groups are arguably very successful, based on numbers.

That said, given sufficient isolation, population groups *will* evolve and adapt to the prevalent foods, especially favoring the highest-value foods. Alcohol and cheeses are extremely high-value methods for storing surplus calories in a primitive society.

Huh. We're back to cheese again. Go figure. What?

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#58 - 2013-04-03 20:53:15 UTC
silens vesica wrote:


Huh. We're back to cheese again. Go figure. What?



Because it can indeed be digested. I have no problem with it and enjoy cheeses from around the world.

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Rain6637
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#59 - 2013-04-03 20:53:43 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:

Frankly, I just don't care any longer about "shocking truths" from food industry. Foods are targetted to be praised or berrated based solely on commercial interests.

I try to stay away from things that are processed. frozen is ok, refrigerated is best...

if it was concocted to taste good, chances are it's not healthy (ya know)

anyone who walks into a restaurant, trusting the assurances the food is healthy in some way (and the recipe's main goal is not to appeal to the tastebuds)... is misguided

then again, I'm more hardcore than most. I just stop eating if my calorie intake bothers me.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#60 - 2013-04-03 20:56:14 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:

Frankly, I just don't care any longer about "shocking truths" from food industry. Foods are targetted to be praised or berrated based solely on commercial interests.

I try to stay away from things that are processed. frozen is ok, refrigerated is best...

if it was concocted to taste good, chances are it's not healthy (ya know)

anyone who walks into a restaurant, trusting the assurances the food is healthy in some way (and the recipe's main goal is not to appeal to the tastebuds)... is misguided

then again, I'm more hardcore than most. I just stop eating if my calorie intake bothers me.


It's just getting ridiculous. We have places in Florida that do hamburgers, but HUGE, on waffles instead of buns for sakes, and utterly drowned with syrup.

Absolutely zero class on top of it all.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882