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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#1 - 2013-04-01 10:55:55 UTC
ive gone the line to be a miner, manufacturer and explorer, but it struck me very fast that it either takes too long or its allready been found.



By that i mean... ima miner, i got 5 acc, 3 hulks, 1 orca and a freither/hulk. To make many big ships i need to mine atleast 4-6 hrs every day, every week. Its so utterly borring and i really regret going that way and none the least spending money on plex.
We lack a really big mining ship that reduces the freaking timewaste... or get droids to run the miningships... or just get a really good bot to operate the mining fleets. (tho a bot aint the most popular thing amongst eve universe lol)



Then there is the research, ive looked into it and what i found out, its qued everywhere for up to 6 months. To research u need to make ure own pos... so its just a stupid thing to begin with in my opinion.

Another thing i find annoying is that u cant try make a completely new BP out of researching 2 BP's... making a merge.



And the the stupid Exploration part... doing the missions and then do it urself.... stupid. Ive got pretty good skills with scanning, found all kinda shite, large hidden belts, gas, loot ect ect.



Then there are the Wormholes... i find it hard to belive that physics would accept such a enormous amount of wormholes to appear. And when i go thru the wormholes (to 0,0 space) there are no, and i mean no, untouch systems left. Ive been thru over 500 holes to 0,0 and i never find a new virgin system. While being so heavily colonizes, i find it very unlogic that it aint mapped and systemized.


In my opinion, it should be much more difficult to find a wormhole.. and when u find one, and ure the first, u get the rights to the wormhole.
And why not put some activly new races in wormhole space??



And about scanning... u scan in a system, but mainly within the outer planet and not beyond. A wormhole in close range of a planet would generate disturbance fields and would easily be detected by anyone without skills... again makes no logic.
Having objects ect ect beyond the the outer planets, which leave the the scanning much harder, but more profitable, would make things more interesting.



Then there is the salvaging... u can only salvage what has been recently killed... what about all the crap floating around like abandoned stations ect ect?? why in Thors name cant we salvage that??



There are much that annoys me whit this game, but the base of the game is built on a good idea..... but somewhere it got screwed up and logic got a big enema.



In some ways i find "Frontier Elite 2" more interesting than this, tho the amiga graphics aint what it was to begin with lol


So in all, i considering to sell of all my accounts and drop this game unless i see some positive changes, cuz this game become suddenly incredible borring.


Regards

Goatman
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#2 - 2013-04-01 11:25:21 UTC
Not exactly F&I post since you only complain without proposing any ideas or improvements really :)

Since Eve is a sandbox you are free to do what interests you and what is fun for you. As can anybody else for that matter even if that means screwing with your goals :) When your current activities can't provide fun what's the point of doing them? Maybe you should scale down a bit to 2 accounts and switch your focus from industry (which seems to be your main activity atm) into other things.

Exploration can be fun and profitable but common consensus is you need to move out of crowded area to find better sites and not have to race to loot with others.

Visits in wormholes don't have to be only about PVE. Scan inhabitants, gank their shinies and loot fruits of their labor! Nice merge between PVE and PVP.

Eve is not 100% RL physics compliant but it is a game and it is consistent in its own rules (well, mostly). Maybe it is simply not a game you are looking for?

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Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#3 - 2013-04-01 11:42:20 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:

So in all, i considering to sell of all my accounts and drop this game unless i see some positive changes, cuz this game become suddenly incredible borring.


Regards

Goatman

Can i have your stuff?

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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#4 - 2013-04-01 11:57:00 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Not exactly F&I post since you only complain without proposing any ideas or improvements really :)

Since Eve is a sandbox you are free to do what interests you and what is fun for you. As can anybody else for that matter even if that means screwing with your goals :) When your current activities can't provide fun what's the point of doing them? Maybe you should scale down a bit to 2 accounts and switch your focus from industry (which seems to be your main activity atm) into other things.

Exploration can be fun and profitable but common consensus is you need to move out of crowded area to find better sites and not have to race to loot with others.

Visits in wormholes don't have to be only about PVE. Scan inhabitants, gank their shinies and loot fruits of their labor! Nice merge between PVE and PVP.

Eve is not 100% RL physics compliant but it is a game and it is consistent in its own rules (well, mostly). Maybe it is simply not a game you are looking for?




I know it was somewhat placed wrong, but i couldnt find a suitable place to put it, so i found this themost suiting place lol

Ive been shortly into pvp/pve and wasnt what interested me mostly. And i want to move to a lesser populated area, but they all have closed stations unless u get permissions or join their corp :)
And ive been scanning in wormholes, found poses, but didnt commit with bigger ships to engage.
What i really want, is place where i can have somewhat time and peace.. and atleast few or preferable none others around me lol

So ive tried to find a new branch to evole in, but it just dont interest me atm :D
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#5 - 2013-04-01 11:57:53 UTC
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:

So in all, i considering to sell of all my accounts and drop this game unless i see some positive changes, cuz this game become suddenly incredible borring.


Regards

Goatman

Can i have your stuff?



So u want my inventory?? sure, ill give ya a few salvage stuff lol ;p
DataRunner Attor
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-04-01 13:52:42 UTC
What you are attempting to do here mate is everything by yourself, a jack of all trades in Industry. Eve is not meant for that, you must still work with other people even if you make your own alt filled account. People make huge amounts of money just shipping, some people make huge amounts of money by just exploring then selling, some people make huge amounts of money buying these basic products from people and converting them into something someone can make use of! What you are doing is all this by yourself and you are complaining...Basically it not easy enough in some aspects, or not plentiful enough in others. Some people spends days, if not weeks scanning through crap systems to find amazing WHs they can farm, gathering the stuff to make some cash between. Miners typically dedicate themselves to only mining. A good miner normally finds a isolated system, max their yeld out. Refine it then sell it somewhere they can make a profit and do nothing else. And some people are dedicated haulers. Then their are those that buy all this stuff, create something new, then sell it at a very high price. All these different groups normally don't work alone...Normally you have corporations with many, many of these different groups working together. You my friend is attempting to be your own corp, and there isn't enough hours in the day for that.

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#7 - 2013-04-01 14:37:58 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:

I know it was somewhat placed wrong, but i couldnt find a suitable place to put it, so i found this themost suiting place lol


Usually GD is a good place for whine posting.

Goatman NotMyFault wrote:

Ive been shortly into pvp/pve and wasnt what interested me mostly. And i want to move to a lesser populated area, but they all have closed stations unless u get permissions or join their corp :)


Bullcrap. 2-3 systems into lowsec you most probably will be alone if you won't choose FW area, nobody forces you to go into sov null.

Goatman NotMyFault wrote:

What i really want, is place where i can have somewhat time and peace.. and atleast few or preferable none others around me lol


What you really want is a single player game.

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#8 - 2013-04-01 15:10:49 UTC
the problem is not the game, its the fact that your playing it.

its not that mining takes ages and is boring, its the fact that other miners are willing to put in the time and effort that ur not. if every other miner only mined for 5 minutes a day, and u mined for an hour a day, u'd be a trllionaire. but instead, other miners mine for hours each day, so u need to mine just as much to keep up. this is also why botting is bad, because it takes away the effort investment of players and rewards the lazy.

the same goes for grinding missions to keep up with inflation. as each player earn isk, u'll need to earn even more isk to increase ur relative buying power (wealth). and the time it takes to research and construct ships keeps the market from being flooded, which keeps prices up, which rewards those willing to put the time and effort in to do such tasks, unlike urself.

exploration in hi-sec is not very lucrative because everyone else (including NPC's) has already taken everything. for more profitable salvage u want to goto null and WH's and run sites. the deeper the better (dnt just go a couple jumps into null or a few WH's deep). u just have to be careful because of ur competitors and pirates.

as for claiming space if ur the first one there, that is nonsense. if u want to have ur own space u need to earn it by forcefully removing its current occupants and then defending it from all comers. but dnt expect the other players to make it easy for u.

eve is a long and hard game.

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Violet Winters
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-04-01 17:53:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Violet Winters
I love your grammar.

I love it so much I feel like punching a wall.

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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#10 - 2013-04-01 18:33:12 UTC
Not sure if this is a quit post or an idea post....


Moving to GD.

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The Troll Bridge
#11 - 2013-04-01 18:51:20 UTC
Eve is rough. I would suggest that we add Helmets to the NEX.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-04-01 19:59:55 UTC
You sound like you play solo all day.

Well ... too bad. Not.

Good bye. o/
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#13 - 2013-04-01 20:11:41 UTC
As far as exploration and new things goes... I'll just leave this here.

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Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#14 - 2013-04-01 21:50:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Xen Solarus
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
or just get a really good bot to operate the mining fleets. (tho a bot aint the most popular thing amongst eve universe lol)

Errm, bots are illegal. Best not do that, unless you like getting smacked in the face with a banhammer.

Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
And the the stupid Exploration part... doing the missions and then do it urself.... stupid. Ive got pretty good skills with scanning, found all kinda shite, large hidden belts, gas, loot ect ect.

Not sure what you're getting at here. You don't like exploration? You can't clear what you find?

Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Then there is the research, ive looked into it and what i found out, its qued everywhere for up to 6 months. To research u need to make ure own pos... so its just a stupid thing to begin with in my opinion.

Then there are the Wormholes... i find it hard to belive that physics would accept such a enormous amount of wormholes to appear. And when i go thru the wormholes (to 0,0 space) there are no, and i mean no, untouch systems left. Ive been thru over 500 holes to 0,0 and i never find a new virgin system. While being so heavily colonizes, i find it very unlogic that it aint mapped and systemized.


Its called unknown space for a reason. Whilst many of them are taken, lots are also deserted. Though finding one is a bit of a shot in the dark. I'd recommend you make the effort to find one, or pay someone to do it for you, and you kill two birds with one stone. Setup a POS as a position to do mining, as well as research. Job done!

Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
And about scanning... u scan in a system, but mainly within the outer planet and not beyond. A wormhole in close range of a planet would generate disturbance fields and would easily be detected by anyone without skills... again makes no logic.

What?? You're talking about scanning in space (made-up sci-fi) for wormholes (made-up sci-fi), while adding in disturbance fields (Ehh??). You do realise this is a game, right? Logic doesn't apply when your flying your internet-spaceship faster than the speed of light (which is also impossible).

Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
So in all, i considering to sell of all my accounts and drop this game unless i see some positive changes, cuz this game become suddenly incredible borring.


Can i haz you stuffz?

Seriously though, EvE is what you make it. Sounds like you're not having fun. Join a corp of highsec miners, or a null-alliance corp that focus' on mining, or a wormhole corp that needs some more miners for their grav sites. You'll immediately find more fun playing with other people, and have access to better roids to shoot your lasers at.

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#15 - 2013-04-01 22:12:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:

My brain had an enema, this is all the crap that came out
Goatman


Don't like it?, bored?, given away all your stuffs?, finished trolling?

Unsub, it's that'a'way>>>>

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