Player Features and Ideas Discussion

But I'll test the -33% versions all the same, just not sure it is wise to hit optimal by the same amount after auto and recent blaster changes with nothing done to lasers since Trinity?, I forget.

People don't use nano ships because they do the most DPS at range. They fly them so they can run away.

Even if they do 50 dps at 20km, they will still be sat at 20km because they are scared to lose their ship.

Nerfing their playstyle and subsequently other people's with misdirected changes like this isn't going to suddenly make them brave. They will be cowards after the TE change. EVE will be the same.

In fact it will just mean a few more people climbing into Talos Nagas Oracles and Tornados.

I seriously f'n hated reading this post.

It's not TE's that are the problem it's the kiting meta. And I'm sorry, but everytime you whack Minnie pilots in the face like this in the name of balance it actually hurts that I spent 30 days training falloff 5 because there is now no significant reason without TE's to even try fly like that.

In a fair and equal engagement pretty much every Minnie boat dies horrible deaths to Caldari boats. Every single one of em. If you keep going at this rate there will be no reason whatsoever to fly anything but Caldari in pvp.

Or is that the plan? All hail the DraekTengu OVerlords?

Hallowed be thy payload?

I mean how quickly can I sell my Wolves, Ruppies etc etc now.

Fozzie the idea is surely balance, not periodic promotion of one race significantly above others.

If your fighting at 0, say in scram & Webb range to be doing affective damage, theres no way to disengage say if your off gate. Unless your ****** fit with stabs or possibly AB fit and able to burn out. The more powerful ship or better counter fit ship will always win. You will not have the ability granted to kiting ships to disengagde by either burning away, or causing the hostile to lose point by pulsing MWD on cross axis so they burn out of range & lose point, allowing you to warp out. There's little skill in fighting at 0 (scram/Webb) range, nerfing TEs kiting ability, wich is an art and skill its self would be yet another mistake by CCP, and a great loss as far as skill goes for the game.
There is counters to kiting ships, & as far as minnie ships go, they have already been nerfed enough, dont ruin it by overstepping a reasonable current mark & success. This proposed change to TEs needs to be scrapped. All it would do is subject eve to yet a other nerf of making the game ever easier, this does not inspire anybody to become better within tactics and situational awareness, it only acts to dumb it down, even giving more reason to blob, and there should be no further reason given to blobbing WHAT SO EVER. Should be promoting skill and fun gfs instead.
Sometimes it becomes very apparent CCP are out of touch with the game and its tactics, this is as good as any example.
A resounding NO to TE nerf from me.

I agree, I think the nerf to TEs is far too harsh, especially considering the ships that generally use them are very deficient in optimal range and require boosts to falloff in order to have decent damage projection.

You're nerfing the skirmish playstyle essentially. I don't like it.

I repeat myself from earlier, CCP has already told us that they like Blob fleets.

Any chance of TE-s affecting missiles?
In combination with TD-s affecting missiles.

CCP was talking about it, why wasn't it done? inability to disrupt missiles is a big problem in any small scale engagement.

In that case, maybe the TC needs a slight buff to compensate for the loss.

I feel like blasters were finally decent, i really don't want to see blaster ships suffer from this change, IMO it's totally uncalled for. Maybe a small faloff buff is in order for blasters if this change makes it to TQ. Not enough to make them the new OP, FOTM guns, but just so they maintain current range.

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This is an awesome discussion and want it to keep going, so this is the friendly reminder to keep it on topic and try and resist "quoting" everyone and their brother in one post as it does break the forum rules. Press on with the debate!

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