Live Events Discussion

all i'm actually seeing here is 'waah waah my main didn't get to gank a dev'

The declare your loyalty thread is there primarily so that the Devteam know who to contact prior to an event.

It seems unlikely that, given the nature of the cluster, someone would telegraph the route their hard to defend aid convoy was taking. Those who were known as loyal to certain factions, be they the attackers or the defenders, were notified of their faction's intent.

you want in on it, declare your loyalty.
you call it the 'platinum club' like it's something those of us in the RP community have paid for. Worked towards, perhaps. Put some effort into, perhaps. but seriously, anyone can get contacted, they just need to declare their loyalty and show through their RP that they are actually loyal to the group they declare for.

You're obviously new here, allow me to attempt to show you the error of your ways.

CCP's live events have always been sort of "inbred" if you want to call them that. They're not WoW 2 week holiday where event has you doing two daily instances and one raid along with 5 daily missions. Here there are actual devs handling the event and it's one time off, for better or worse. You want wow-like events, open to anyone go see incursions and RP that the "new sansha threat" has yet again arrived and requires destruction of 23 sites like last one few weeks ago. Eve tries it's best to show off it's "only once" side, that's what showcasing the Titan arrival and few years later it's destruction was all about. Things tend to lose their appeal as their uniqueness goes away, kinda like drinking that really good wine every day on every meal makes it taste bland after year.

Unlike say WoW, here threads made and stickied by devs actually have meaning, to a point where you can end up getting permaban from game due to doing something in-game that was declared exploit and posted on the news feed with just link to forum where actual explanation is. They are not random threads, this thread we're now talking in is example of random thread. Same way declaring loyalty in a thread might get you some dev rp spammage you wouldn't otherwise get. Heck maybe it gets you invited early to starting location you wouldn't know about. Ofc being player driven game, it helps if you're high in social ladder as that gives you more weight and people tend to trust you more or fear you more. A Corp ceo is much more likely to get call then random space dude 2429338. Again sorry if this doesn't cater to people wishing for instant enjoyment, they really should look at lvl 1-5 missions + incursions and RP those.

As for people calling out mains, it's well given that unless proven otherwise, everyone in eve has a main they wont post with. You, me, the guy next door. RP peeps actually make difference to this as they post with the toon they usually rp with, however whether that's their main or not is up to whoever judges what mains actually mean.

Finally about whether or not live events should be geared towards someone, if anyone at all. After certain T20 (Kugutsumen to see if it's still censored) incident live events kinda dropped along with dev interaction with players. Be glad that they at least started them again few years back and if you hope to open them up more, keep voicing your opinion, vote someone to csm that thinks same way or run yourself. You know good place to voice your opinion? Generally those random threads where devs might ask for opinion. Just be prepared to accept you might be in semi-silent majority without lot of vocal supporters.

You sir, have hit the nail on the head. People, including myself, were talking a lot in Live Events, which is supposed to be where you talk when you want in on a Live Event, amirite? The people you contacted to "communicate between players" decided to take it upon themselves to exclude many capsuleers that wanted in on this event. To me that seems like bad business, but hey, what do I know. That I found out almost everything about the event from yellow chat in local, instead of supposed RP'ers who I like to call Platinum Members shows that the objective you want is not being achieved. Maybe you should chat with your faves and remind them everybody playing the game should have an effect on its story, not just the chosen few.

To the guy above you, LOL. Edit: edit retracted.

Oh look, another special snowflake.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=179546&find=unread I used the ingame channel "Live Events" as stated in this apparently super serious Dev thread about where to go for stuff on LIVE EVENTS. So what you're telling me is, if I want to participate in a Live Event, I shouldn't do what the Dev says I should? According to the person two posts up, you should get a permaban for distributing false information and going against a super serious Dev thread.

Ohhhh slammm. Anywho, let me know when you realize you are wrong. I'm happy to accept apologies.

"Unlike say WoW, here threads made and stickied by devs actually have meaning, to a point where you can end up getting permaban from game due to doing something in-game that was declared exploit and posted on the news feed with just link to forum where actual explanation is."

"Yes, in this case I was one of those that got advance warning. I knew there would be people in Live Events that would want to interfere with the operation, so I sure as hell did not talk about it there."

"This thread serves as a collection of sources for news on Live Events

News & Resources:
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Live Events (In Character & Out Of Character)"

Anything else? You RP nerds sure are bad at arguing. I offer classes for a small fee.

Edit: I'm not trolling. Just pointing out deficiencies in the Live Events process.

Since reading is so hard for you, allow me to explain the part of sentence you're having hard time with;

"Unlike say WoW, here threads made and stickied by devs actually have meaning, to a point where you can end up getting permaban from game due to doing something in-game that was declared exploit and posted on the news feed with just link to forum where actual explanation is."

You assume just because I listed getting permaban as example for not following dev threads (as was with Pos bowling, pos manufacturing exploit 2009 etc.) that it applies to all dev threads. This is not the case, nor have I never in that sentence made that claim. I claimed they have more meaning then similar threads made at WoW forums. You see here you might actually get highly personalized response from dev and some of them actually read your posts. If you want to know actual consequences I recommend checking the TOS and EULA, you might be surprised to how little you're actually entitled for.

As for me being RP nerd, not ingame no, I play eve mainly as market simulator and glorified chat tool. But it's bad for business if unique and hard to get things become more available hence I have partial business interest in this kind of matter. Last thing we want to do is end up in WoW economy where materials to make something up end up costing multiple times the end product just because supply of superior end products is high thanks to "get everyone everywhere super good stuff."

Now you might wonder what on earth rp events have to do with item spread, they directly don't apart from certain rare drops when certain stuff gets ganked, but they do affect the development mentality at CCP. I'm sure you're at least somewhat against the notion WH space gets turned to 1.0 with static wormholes to allow every player equal access to the products within? If you are, then you're also elitist, same as we all, just in different field. If CCP suddenly starts to have more "everyone gets everything" mentality peeps in the control, you're facing possible losses too.

Not that I don't see some of your points, but what you're saying makes it sound like live events are something more exclusive rather than inclusive, and seems to be reserved for the RP community only.

While I'm interested in participating in live events, I can't say I'm equally interested in the RP portion, so does that mean people like me will just continue to be left in the dark? This was my first time attempting to join in on an event outside of the one at Caldari Prime, and I can't say it left a very good impression. I've posted on the declaration thread and will continue to hang out in the live events channel, hopefully the next one will be a better experience.

That's not the case, and the channel that we were all sat talking in was open and public

Regardless, we have several issues right now when trying to communicate with players during live events. One of the biggest issues that we have is local spam during events when key things that event actors are saying are blotted out by spam and nonsensical contributions.

We're currently looking at ways to resolve this, but as with anything, it's a learning process.

I thought the fact you were being horrible, manipulative, and of questionable morals IC was awesome.