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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-03-24 01:53:08 UTC
First off, sorry about attitude directed to ccp in regards to being locked out. It was quite frustrating for me as a roleplayer. Anyways my idea.

Mostly. Try and split or multi sites. Combat on gate or cyno for pvpers if can local area suspect with different areas for pve defenders. Have multiple systems, etc for future events.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Calathorn Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-03-24 02:08:25 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
First off, sorry about attitude directed to ccp in regards to being locked out. It was quite frustrating for me as a roleplayer. Anyways my idea.

Mostly. Try and split or multi sites. Combat on gate or cyno for pvpers if can local area suspect with different areas for pve defenders. Have multiple systems, etc for future events.



totally agree with you

system stability is key, but shouldn't keep people from participating

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#3 - 2013-03-24 08:14:57 UTC
Calathorn Virpio wrote:
Markus Reese wrote:
First off, sorry about attitude directed to ccp in regards to being locked out. It was quite frustrating for me as a roleplayer. Anyways my idea.

Mostly. Try and split or multi sites. Combat on gate or cyno for pvpers if can local area suspect with different areas for pve defenders. Have multiple systems, etc for future events.



totally agree with you

system stability is key, but shouldn't keep people from participating

Live events are done an a regular mostly weekly basis, but they are not big like this one(beacause of PAX East) and in normal one CCP dosn't reaveal what will happen few days before i happens, even if there there is some notice it's max few hours.

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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-03-24 08:23:30 UTC
They have been going weekly? I have read a few articles in the news that lead up to luminaire, but that was it. Boy, what have i been missing?

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#5 - 2013-03-24 09:27:10 UTC
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-03-24 09:31:24 UTC
Oh yeah. I remember reading those now. Each one out of my time zone...

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
#7 - 2013-03-24 15:04:15 UTC
Markus.

Keep an eye on the EVE_LiveEvents twitter feed.
a lot of these events are mentioned on there before they happen.

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-03-24 21:03:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Markus Reese
iyammarrok wrote:
Markus.

Keep an eye on the EVE_LiveEvents twitter feed.
a lot of these events are mentioned on there before they happen.


It is more that I am rarely able to get onto eve before 2300 due to rl. Pure luck I was able to make the Caldari Prime! Even so, as awareness increases, the large populations will be able to react in less time. By the end of the sansha ones where live events and other channels tallied more than a thousand active, even 30 minutes warning could fill multiple fleets.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-03-25 14:53:34 UTC
Copied from my reply in another thread:

Not sure about the feasability of this idea, but still going to shout it out. What if the story critical actors are the pvp trigger? Is it possible to make attacking the actor cause a suspect flag?

This means the more pve people can focus on say spawned npcs or be in another battle, roleplaying etc. But if they want to take out critical targets, ie the actors, then they could face repercussions from the defenders. This is also more fair for the players who are not able to, or unaware of how to get into a fleet.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#10 - 2013-03-26 00:58:27 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
First off, sorry about attitude directed to ccp in regards to being locked out. It was quite frustrating for me as a roleplayer. Anyways my idea.

Mostly. Try and split or multi sites. Combat on gate or cyno for pvpers if can local area suspect with different areas for pve defenders. Have multiple systems, etc for future events.



I think it's a shame too. Considering there were so many people there who's sole intent was to disrupt the event. There were people 'rick rolling' voice comms in each fleet while dual boxing. People spamming local chat to the point where you could no longer read the CCP NPC messages.

I can't believe this sort of behavior goes unpunished...

"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."

-Cold Wind
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-03-26 01:07:42 UTC
Tavin Aikisen wrote:
Markus Reese wrote:
First off, sorry about attitude directed to ccp in regards to being locked out. It was quite frustrating for me as a roleplayer. Anyways my idea.

Mostly. Try and split or multi sites. Combat on gate or cyno for pvpers if can local area suspect with different areas for pve defenders. Have multiple systems, etc for future events.



I think it's a shame too. Considering there were so many people there who's sole intent was to disrupt the event. There were people 'rick rolling' voice comms in each fleet while dual boxing. People spamming local chat to the point where you could no longer read the CCP NPC messages.

I can't believe this sort of behavior goes unpunished...


Fortunately, I think many of those people might be a more rare event. Most of those guys just go to try to get the gank or killmail. Just had to look how many people were calling for them. Not sure if possible, but I think no killmails during live events would be a good thing. However, that is personal opinion, let us not twist the topic to that. Continuing my tips posts:

Focus more on extended live events requiring traversing, interaction and co-ordination. New players do very well in random fleets. They are unsure what is happening and love to listen from my past FC experience in the events. People who want a quick gank, less likely to show up if we have more in depth events.

If it seems I am being a bit harsh on the pure pvp people, it is because logically, the live events shouldn't be tailored to them. Reason? Somebody only concerned about grief, km etc and doesn't care about the story, why should they affect it. Also, it is easier to just gank and "rick roll" the events then it is to play a roll. I have nothing against the play style. It keeps eve very interesting. It is just if the live events are for the story and no reward, then make it geared towards the roleplay and story people. For many, KM are a reward, so axe them.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.