Jita Park Speakers Corner

CCP internally calls POSes starbases, and they keep slipping up when they decide what POS stands for. They are talking about POSes as we know them today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo0vbusruT0

2 minutes 50 seconds in I think they got the point of this thread.

I love the delay

also around 7:20 he comments on people catching his ear about how bad poses are, or something like that, I had trouble understanding exactly what he was saying in both the 2:50 and 7:20 times

o/
Celly

I just want to say thanks to everyone who has continued to post on this thread, especially Two Step for bringing this to our attention and for the follow up that clears up what's coming in the next release.

And like Lady Zarrina says in her post, a handful of well done changes would improve what POS managers need to do with their towers, corp hangers in stations, and allow corp access to resources like corp research labs.

A paradox you say.

It will destroy everything you say.

Well now here is hoping you don't get elected.

Best bit would be that none of us would notice as we would just no longer exist, well in this dimension anyway.

Added a link to the new dev blog in the first post of the thread: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/odyssey-summer-expansion-starbase-iterations/

there are also problems at the research lab,

when you open a POS with standing has all the alliance for research,
it is necessary that each corp, and an office in the system,
to put bpo in research
must remove this limitation, and allow the research staff from the hangar expected.

Jumpin Jesus on a Pogo stick!!! We won't have to execute anyone for not making some progress on starbases. I am a very happy industrialist now. However I still expect you guys to move to modular POS's so I can build my "Death Star".

Thank you for your efforts.

CEO of Evil,

Doukyou

yeah pos needs love

dunno if been mentioned before but would love some changes like this

- ofline posses should have no shield and no shieldrecharge, makes cleaningup easier
- killing posmods should show what was inside

- ad a option to merg labs/array into 1 list for easy usage

A few comments or ideas for easier solutions to Starbase Personal Hangars.

How about interlinking this mechanic directly with a STATION oriented one, thus gaining more features in one single go?

A Personal Division Hangar (PDH) that integrates into the corp functionality, would add a range of solutions and opportunities to current mechanics.

This Division hangar would be unlimited like normal space, but with rental paid to corp based on space used. Thus a minimum rental fee per m3 would "limit" practical storage, or a limiting mechanic could be set for POS function, but still rentaining the rental feature.

The PDH would work rather similar on POS and STATION and I would suggest also in PI.

So you would be able to move from any PDH in a system to any other with only a time sink, similar to when transporting items in PI. Thus making it a sort of customs office functionality. The RP concept would be drone facilitated and interbus activity.

This would also be useful since getting kicked from a corp or leaving a corp or similar could make it move into Impounded storage in the same system where available. In Wormhole space this would not be accessible again except from another POS or PI.

IMPORTANT: Executive roles should grant take and view in such hangars. There is a lot of arguments for this, but the most relevant is that if you have trust issues with your executives you should not have a PDH. The added functionality from a corp perspective is rather big, and it would also make sense to let the owner grant take roles to other corp members. Using something akin to based at mechanics and person to person roles?

There are quite a few reasons to do it in some variation like this. First it helps PI mechanics. It makes a lot of potential future features a lot easier to create. Also the view option from corp to current personal hangar could be removed. There is no good valid reason why a corp can control who can see personal assets. Those that are personal responsibility but originates from corp asseets however should not only be visible but also accessible to execs and even corp members if possible. (though that mechanic might be a bit tricky to code, and can be omitted since work arounds are not that hard)

The reason for the interbus option is something that would make a lot of people very happy, and potentially industrialists would see it as a huge upgrade, since moving assets like fuel and raw materials could be made a lot easier. The limitation should be that someone would have to still move it on location from PDH to production enabled hangars. So it would not become an abused mechanic.

Ideally an actual drone or npc interbus ship would physically move it in space, to add a new type of soft target, but that is a nice to have mainly.

There are also a lot of potential features opened with this if a contract type could grant access to such hangars temporarily and thus work as a public contract fuel and industrialist feature.

Also if their view access granted BP access a lot of new sharing mechanics could develop. I even see this as a possible feature to open on Alliance basis to span these features even further.

Just a few ideas I would like devs and CSM to consider.

The concepts are drafts and ofc need tweaking and perfection, the main idea is to think it into a more broad function, to not end up with dead-end features.

PS: This idea also links directly into the Player POS to STATION Slot ideas. Where npc slots are removed entirely and players supply all station slots in all STATIONS at rental cost set by player, and adjusted by station owner (further fees and taxing) In npc this would be standing based, and in SOV space it would be a sort of added tax and thus an added revenue that NULL have wanted a while I believe.