EVE New Citizens Q&A

3. If you anchor and password protect your container no one can take it, but in general they cant hold much so its sort f a waste of time. Also keep in mind that these cans will disappear if you dont use it for a certain amount of time.

4. I would say its a waste of time and ISK (fuel and so on) to set up a POS just to mine in said system. I can understand that it seems like a lucrative option to have a system "all on your own" since most dont mine in these systems unless they are in a group or have alts that can do the hauling for them.
I cant say how much a POS would cost you on a monthly basis, but yes if someone war decs you they can destroy the POS, and some will war dec you purely because they found said POS.

Now if your going with the option of a POS... Im assuming this is in high sec, so you need to keep in mind that you need to get a corp with a certain amount of standing to set up a POS in high sec. If you are the only person in said corp this isent to bad as long as your willing to grind up the standing, but if your in a corp with other people this becomes a lot more difficult.

So basically...i would rather advice you to find a system with a station that is not close to a trade hub. There are a lot of systems out there that are basically unused. It might take some time to find them, but in the long run its worth it

Anchored cans are safe. Nobody can take them.
Password protected cans are safe. Nobody can take the stuff inside it unless they have the password.

The biggest secure container is 3900 m3. Which is nothing comared to the macks internal hold.
Secured anchored cans stay in space for 30 days after the last activation. So open them once a month amd they are infinite.

A small POS cost about 100mil a month in fuels (give or take a couple of mil with current market prices) and they CAN be shot down by others.

The price of the POS itself depends on what you buy for it.

EDIT:

Medium POS is 200mil a month
Large one is 400mil a month.

EU timezone player.

So just woke up (well, woke up at 6.30 EVE time) and as I have a day that is totally free of any appointments...well, EVE time it is.

You dont really need protection for it, if you get dec'ed they can't start shooting you for 24 hours which is more than enough time to take down the pos. Honestly if your going to do it, use a large tower and setup whats called a Dickstar, between that and not being able to jump caps in to bring it down quickly it will be so annoying to mess with that no one will bother.

Thank you!

I didn't think of that. This makes the whole project useless for me, since hauling minerals from one system to the next system would take up quite a considerable amount of time, which could be translated into around as much "money" as I would have gained, from mining richer roids (plus buying the pos, and paying for fuel).

This sadly means I have maxed out my mining income in high sec.
I will have to find another area in the game to challenge me.

With a relatively new character with few low level skills but cruiser, anchoring, drones, mining drones, industrial, refining, and mining, I'd lay out a series of gigantic secure cans with passwords along the inside of the curve of a belt, bookmark the first and mine along the belt to the last, depositing the take into each can as I went. When I got enough to fill my level II hauler, I'd do that by warping it to the bookmark of the first can and filling the hauler as I went can-to-can progressively along the belt.

And, don't forget that some cans have more interior space than the volume they take up in the hauler, increasing how many m3 you can carry. And the right expanded cargoholds and rigs can really increase what your hauler can hold. As an example, I now have an Iteron V that can haul right at 50k m3, which if you look up a basic Iteron V capacity (6000m3) is way, way less than that, not even 2 gigantic cans worth. So, fit your hauler right!

I also loot and salvage all belt rats I kill as I mine. Haulers can do that as they pick up ore - the best have two high slots for one small tractor beam and one salvager. If you don't care about the loot items and the salvage parts, you can refine the loot and sell the salvage, thus increasing your mining results.

For a new character, mining, refining and selling like this, gives you time to grow skills, like higher level haulers, drones to kill belt rats, omber processing, barges, for rigs, mining drones (to increase your rate of mining), and etc.

And, do remember the 30 day limit on the cans.

This works nicely with a station in system or no station. 0.5 systems with good omber deposits, refined, is a good way for a new character to earn isk to afford more cans and other good stuff like better miners.

If there is no station in the system, it does increase the transit time a lot, so explore a bit as suggested above and find a 0.5 system with a station that does refining and doesn't take too much in processing costs.

And, finally, depending on your personal schedule, many systems are not that busy right after downtime and before primetime.

So, it IS possible. I did it.

I run a small fleet with Mackinaw(s) and an Orca. This means I can cram about an entire asteroid belt worth of a particular ore into ore holds of the Mackinaws and the various storage locations of the Orca: unmodified, the Orca will have about 127500m3. The Mackinaws have another 30k. This means I can hold about a half-hour's worth of ore before having to take the fleet back to station to offload.