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"I was there." Trucking plenty of ships and modules into Luminaire the night before, with the intention of throwing them into the fray until I ran out. Telling myself the effort will be worth it to get into an epic battle and be a part of shaping EVE history. It'll be worth it because I'll be able to say "I was there."

"I was there." On the Luminaire gate in Algogille in a massive ball of hundreds of other ships trying desperately to get into the system, alternately mashing "jump" and dodging gank tornados.

"I was there." On the login screen of my alt character I left in Luminaire, repeatedly trying to log in to at least make a few tackles or get a view of the action with more than the handful of frames per second the live stream was capable of.

I was still "there" an hour or so later when the Titan went down, having never entered the system nor fired a shot.

Still, at least "I was there". Right guys? Right?

Perhaps one day EVE's infrastructure will be able to cash the cheques the marketing department keeps writing.

Hope those lucky enough to get in system had a good time.

I came into system a few hours earlier, flew around and shot some guys. I liked it.

I wonder how much effect the players really had on the titan's/dreads' hitpoints, though, considering all the players were in subcaps and the majority sub-BS?

My thorax survived, thank you LAG. I had an 6-7 minute long figth locking and turning my ship towards a Corax, but i don't think my ship ever fired a single shot. I know i shot some capitals , bu it took 10 minutes to lock the bastards. I remember getting so fed up with trying to warp, that i tried to close the game. But then The game crashed my computer instead.. Oh how I miss those good'ol figths in 0.0 NOT. Next time, why not keep the population cap at 750? Maybe then, after turning off all graphix, effects, brackets. the figth would be manageble.. This was pretty much horrible.. Maybe turn off crime watch??

And the scripted marketing ploy for PAX has come to its predetermined conclusion. Lol, screw you, NA timezones.

Did the CCP-run capfleet pilots count towards the 1000 player system cap?

Because if so ell emm ayy oh.

Dude, it doesn't matter. CCP scripted the event for the Titan to go down. Whatever happened with the capsuleers, you were going to lose. That's why they brought in more Moro's then the Caldari had cap ships, and that's how they run live events. If you don't like being a punching bag, don't be there in the future.

I think the only part that really was affected by player actions was the DUST guys - I think if Caldari had a victory in the DUST battles, then the ground forces would have re-established contact with the titan and the titan would have glassed all the Gallente civilians as threatened earlier before dieing.

Face it - in the Gallente home system, the only reason the Caldari fleet stayed there so long was not due to ship dominance in space, but the threat to glass all the Gallente civilians on the planet if the Gallente attacked the Caldari fleet in orbit. It makes perfect sense that the Gallente brought an overwhelming space fleet to fight the Caldari in a Gallente home system.

You are very optimistic as to the level of player involvement. As I understand from battle reports, the Leviathan was actually holding steady shields due to players remote-repping it, so CCP just kept bringing in more Moro's in on it until it cracked. It's not just a predetermined outcome, CCP had to work hard to make the efforts on one side totally pointless. And they did.

They said the Caldari had a lead in instance battles, but the Gallente were ahead in Mercenary contracts.

I don't know what that means, I play eve not DUST.

They said that the lead in instance battles was 6 out of 600 battles they said. I am assuming there was some threshold where a large enough percentage on the Caldari side would have triggerred a re-establishment of ground control, and a 1% lead isn't that significant. And no significant lead was established before the titan died.

Having said that, I don't care for DUST having an impact on FW, but that's not in our control.

With that I agree, this battle was definitely tilted against the Caldari. But

a) The current setup with a few Caldari ships in the Gallente home system was already a losing proposition.
b) Maybe the captain of the Leviathon decided against glassing 10's of millions of civilians at the last moment. If I were Caldari, I'd be somewhat proud of that. (Or if A gallente ship in a similar situation decided not to glass 10's of millions of Caldari citizens, I'd also be proud for my faction).

The Leviathon was going to die either way. At least it didn't result in the mass death of civilians.

Though, to add to "this was a setup for the Caldari to lose" - Do you think it would have been a victory if the Leviathon mass murdered civilians? Either way, I think it would look bad for the Caldari.

This outcome was probably the best possible one for the Caldari State for this live event from an RP perspective.