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NPC Couriers - changes made?
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Siigari Kitawa
Operation Sleepless
#1 - 2013-03-19 06:52:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Siigari Kitawa
Hey all, I was doing a video on NPC couriers. During the staging of the video I noticed that shooting NPC couriers no longer causes stations owning the couriers from attacking you.

Can anyone verify/validate this was changed, and if so, when? Thank you.

Additionally, when did scanning a ship's cargo show what the ship is dropping as opposed to using a ship scanner, or do standard NPCs still require a ship scanner to show loot? Thanks.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#2 - 2013-03-19 11:38:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Chribba
Station aggro was changed in Retribution (sucky change), I've had an alt do convoy shooting for a long time, specialized for it, now you can do it in a rookie ship without risk - you don't even take a standings hit. I even filed a BR about it, and the outcome of that was that they changed so you get concorded if you shoot the station itself lol

While in fact the BR was regarding getting aggro via the convoy. So it's a feature now...

Cargo scanning has been in for a long time (prolly like Crucible)

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-03-19 12:11:29 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Station aggro was changed in Retribution (sucky change), I've had an alt do convoy shooting for a long time, specialized for it, now you can do it in a rookie ship without risk - you don't even take a standings hit. I even filed a BR about it, and the outcome of that was that they changed so you get concorded if you shoot the station itself lol

While in fact the BR was regarding getting aggro via the convoy. So it's a feature now...

Cargo scanning has been in for a long time (prolly like Crucible)

/c
That's an interesting change. Could lead to more things ...
Siigari Kitawa
Operation Sleepless
#4 - 2013-03-19 12:12:06 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Station aggro was changed in Retribution (sucky change), I've had an alt do convoy shooting for a long time, specialized for it, now you can do it in a rookie ship without risk - you don't even take a standings hit. I even filed a BR about it, and the outcome of that was that they changed so you get concorded if you shoot the station itself lol

While in fact the BR was regarding getting aggro via the convoy. So it's a feature now...

Cargo scanning has been in for a long time (prolly like Crucible)

/c

Tested tonight Chribba, and you do still take the standings penalty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ilbOfsd5x0

Skip to 5:00.

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Turelus
Utassi Security
#5 - 2013-03-19 12:23:25 UTC
Confirmed stations didn't shoot a month ago (not sure if fixed now)
I petitioned to see if it's an exploit to kill on undock and was told "No it's not, kill all the transports you want"

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#6 - 2013-03-19 12:26:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Chribba
Solstice Project wrote:
That's an interesting change. Could lead to more things ...
Yes farming without risk, and no lightshows, lightshows were the best!!

Siigari Kitawa wrote:
Tested tonight Chribba, and you do still take the standings penalty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ilbOfsd5x0

Skip to 5:00.
Nice, then that got fixed at least. Now if we only can get the sentries back... also... I don't get it... why they no like me?! http://eve-files.com/chribba/disliked.png

Turelus wrote:
Confirmed stations didn't shoot a month ago (not sure if fixed now)
I petitioned to see if it's an exploit to kill on undock and was told "No it's not, kill all the transports you want"
Why would it be an exploit? Only change is that there's absolutely no risk involved any longer (unless you count the 1dps from the convoy a risk)

/c

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Siigari Kitawa
Operation Sleepless
#7 - 2013-03-19 12:56:23 UTC
The haulers themselves used to whomp on you. My old Vexor used to have a rough time knocking down an NPC hauler back in the day. That'd be without sentries involved, too.

Regardless, not taking sentries, the "safe" way to shoot haulers would be to wait until the hauler from say, Quafe Station arrived at Poteque. Then the Quafe-owned haulers would be the only thing shooting at you, not the Poteque sentries.

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