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You know ...... I fell down laughing. The EVE community has been berating CCP for YEARS on this, and you've finally seen the light.
Now back then, who was the wiseguy that went the other way?

You really need a new router. Only 12 connections is ridiculous.

Then start voting out your politicians that are in the media mafia's pay.

I understand why CCP is doing this, what I don't get is why. Specially right now .

Any chance of having the launcher live in the system tray, like steam?

There should be an option to not use bittorrent, at all. A lot of universities will outright insta-block your connection for using any p2p technologies.

I'm not talking about simply blocking the p2p connection. I'm talking about blocking the user from accessing their network at all. Happened to me when I tried to play some koren MMO...they just assume you've made a trip to the pirate bay and cut you off.

Hey CCP

Great job finding that a bittorrent system to download the expansion & patch.

WoT MMO uses The Bittorrent system and it works very well.

I do not get any error or problems with Bittorrent system at all when I use the WoT launcher.

Can you elaborate on

Its not exactly a secret that many people multibox in EVE. Features such as a shared wallet between accounts, switching character without having to log in again etc would be awesome.

Having a 'master' EvE account that you can then link 'sub-accounts' to would be a massive awesome feature. Imagine if this account could have 1 API for all your needs.

Some way to automatically install the various test servers would for sure increase participation on the test-realms.

Not easy to bypass, the way a lot of the filtering boxes work is they look at the SSL certificate used to encrypt the data. Certain data patterns are flagged as potentially P2P, it is analysed centrally and if found to be P2P the certificate itself is then used to confirm P2P and implement throttling. Next comes the issue of carrier-grade NAT which can further limit the ability to use P2P.

Also in Australia most ISPs count both uploads and downloads against our data caps. We pay for Eve Online, why should we pay more by potentially doubling the amount of data used for each update? A lot of countries have data caps, a lot of internet providers have detection for P2P to throttle or block.

Next we have the potential issues with the new USA "six-strikes" P2P policies and the equivilents in other countries. There is talk it detects all P2P traffic, not just illicit ones. Even with white-listing certain things, many people may receive warnings before the Eve launcher is exempted.

Will P2P cost CCP less than a network of content nodes? I think it will. As long as the number of CDNs is adequate and I can turn off torrenting before anything starts, I'll be happy.

You do know many ISPs and networks block bittorrent - right? And corruption can occur when court ordered internet wire tapping of bittorrent is done at routers.

Also bittorrent is not particularly good at the initial mass release of large files. Until a critical mass of complete files are online as seeders -- bittorent tends to stall for lots of people as the network gets obsessed with giving everyone the first MOST available part of the file. Until a fair fraction of people have the parts you are missing you can end up just sitting in a bittorrent traffic jam. Your idea of having people with complete downloads signed off of bittorrent will make this much much worse.
If mapping to nearest-least busy regional server cache of client, bittorrent may or not have good available.

So I recommend you do not make BitTorrent the only launcher download protocol.


So why not design the main body of the launcher to be as protocol independent as possible? Include a toolbox of protocols.
Sure launcher may have to skip/substitute some techniques as protocol features vary.

Default to bittorrent. But maybe include alternates like HTTP 1.1 as fall back solutions. Even let user select which one to use. Maybe even have bittorrent status checks on seeder/leecher ratios and availability before selecting bittorrent as default.


As one alternative protocol look at low overhead tunneling to regional distribution points that may allow you to use wrapped protocols of your choice (keep routers from stripping those pesky HTTPS range headers). After all you don't really care about encryption security, so you could probably custom code to fake the hardware/CPU intense encryption and just say its encrypted before encapsulation. Have to get regional distribution servers loaded to support that of course.