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SOMER Blink - Microlotteries that Finish in Minutes! 1 QUADRILLION ISK Won!

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Qrovax
Canadian Institute of RnD
#1461 - 2013-03-07 23:03:06 UTC
CAP THE GIGABLINK! Always the rich winning it because they can buy all of the tickets... Since there are less than 100 tickets this makes the odds ridiculously unfair! Make it 1-2 Tickets per person, make the odds of winning just this one draw about true luck and not about how rich you are.
Qrovax
Canadian Institute of RnD
#1462 - 2013-03-08 02:07:25 UTC
Another suggestion, reserve 1 slot on the blink boards for 2mil ships only. People who don't have a lot of ISK can't play when its full of battleships and generally enjoy the chance to play as many times as their wallet will let them. It will stop the boards from stalling until people are willing to fork out the amount needed to get the big ticket items off.
lollerwaffle
Perkone
Caldari State
#1463 - 2013-03-08 02:18:38 UTC
Haven't read through all the replies, and at work at the moment, but I have a quick question:

What are the minibonks, and how do I tell if I won? Do I have to be ingame?
Qrovax
Canadian Institute of RnD
#1464 - 2013-03-08 02:53:40 UTC
lollerwaffle wrote:
Haven't read through all the replies, and at work at the moment, but I have a quick question:

What are the minibonks, and how do I tell if I won? Do I have to be ingame?


Minibonks is like a raffle where you buy tickets with the tokens you have, each ticket is 5 tokens. The draw goes for the duration stated when you click on it as well as the prize. At the end the prize winners are notified in game and displayed on the blink page.
lollerwaffle
Perkone
Caldari State
#1465 - 2013-03-08 03:07:47 UTC
Qrovax wrote:
lollerwaffle wrote:
Haven't read through all the replies, and at work at the moment, but I have a quick question:

What are the minibonks, and how do I tell if I won? Do I have to be ingame?


Minibonks is like a raffle where you buy tickets with the tokens you have, each ticket is 5 tokens. The draw goes for the duration stated when you click on it as well as the prize. At the end the prize winners are notified in game and displayed on the blink page.

Thanks for the quick reply. Will check in game. Is there an ingame channel I should join, or do I get notified by mail if I win?

Also, what's the ingame channel (cos I'm lazy)?
Somerset Mahm
Cognitive Distortion
#1466 - 2013-03-08 04:19:48 UTC
The ingame channel is SOMER Lotteries or you can click the "Join our channel" button on the website.

We Evemail all winners and do a live drawing at the end of the week :)

SOMER Blink Microlotteries that finish in minutes! Running for over 2 years :)

lollerwaffle
Perkone
Caldari State
#1467 - 2013-03-08 06:46:21 UTC
Thanks!!

P.S. Damn you Somer Blink!! The ability to play in a browser has resulted in a thoroughly unproductive Friday at work for me :(
Swedish Spaceman
Norrskensdrommar
#1468 - 2013-03-08 16:43:36 UTC
Qrovax wrote:
CAP THE GIGABLINK! Always the rich winning it because they can buy all of the tickets... Since there are less than 100 tickets this makes the odds ridiculously unfair! Make it 1-2 Tickets per person, make the odds of winning just this one draw about true luck and not about how rich you are.


I can tell you from personal experience that Gigas gets heroed ALOT.
ECHBlackthorn
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1469 - 2013-03-08 17:39:08 UTC
... I hate the Falklands ... worst internet EVAR!!! How am i supposed to deposit into blink and keep up with Celebrations and the likes if im never able to get online ... I think SOMER should give me a bil free credit because im a loyal customer .... and because im Andrev's love child .... he owes me that much!!! Shocked

Keep up the good works though and missing the banter!!!

Blacky
Replacement 234
Tremor Recorded
#1470 - 2013-03-08 20:59:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Replacement 234
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Qrovax wrote:
Another suggestion, reserve 1 slot on the blink boards for 2mil ships only. People who don't have a lot of ISK can't play when its full of battleships and generally enjoy the chance to play as many times as their wallet will let them. It will stop the boards from stalling until people are willing to fork out the amount needed to get the big ticket items off.


It helps to understand the rules shown under the tab "how to play"

How do I buy a ticket?You can either play an existing blink, or start your own if slots are free. To play a blink in progress, just click the Blink! button next to a ticket number. Your tickets will be assigned immediately.To start a new blink, just choose a prize to play for by opening the Blinkbar that hovers at the bottom of the page. Once you buy a ticket, the Blink will start up!How many active blinks are allowed on the board?•Normal Blinks: Maximum 8
•Big Blinks: Maximum 3
•Mega Blinks: Maximum 2
•Ultra Blinks: Maximum 2
•Max on board: 8 Normal+Big+Mega, and 2 Ultra (total 10)


The categories of big, mega and ultra add up to a max of 7 out 10, so three game slots are always available for the lowest tier of prize, though they may not all be 2mil tickets at the same time or evn one at 2mil. but still, 30% of the board is for the lowest tier of ticket costs.

You can start any prize you want, too. You just have to go through the steps after clicking on the start new blink at the bottom of the main page and if a slot is available for that category, you can start it.

Get familiar with the achievements as a new player and pick up some blnk credit that way. I can't remember the total of the achievements, I suppose theoretically it is unlimited as you get a cash award every time your winnings of blink credit pass another trillion. And don't look at that as impossible, I started this game with a question mark over my head.
Replacement 234
Tremor Recorded
#1471 - 2013-03-08 21:17:35 UTC
Qrovax wrote:
CAP THE GIGABLINK! Always the rich winning it because they can buy all of the tickets... Since there are less than 100 tickets this makes the odds ridiculously unfair! Make it 1-2 Tickets per person, make the odds of winning just this one draw about true luck and not about how rich you are.



Regardless of who holds the other 63 tickets - your odds are always the same - 1 in 64.

I can tell you that holding 50 tickets does not guarrantee a win, nor does more than 40, not does more than 30 or 20 or 10 as I have lost plenty of gigas when holding more than each step of tickets I just mentioned. It is easy to win yourself into the poor house in this game. The rich don't always get richer, but because we all startedt this game with 5k and a ****** ship, some have learned how to become rich, but are still learning how many new and different ways there are to become poor. Once you learn one way to become rich, and that method does not become common knowledge, or CCP does not nerf it, becoming poor is not so scary as it might seem. I am still always looking for a new way, though.

Just forget about personalities, the winning ticket could give a **** who owns it.
Replacement 234
Tremor Recorded
#1472 - 2013-03-08 21:52:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Replacement 234
ECHBlackthorn wrote:
... I hate the Falklands ... worst internet EVAR!!! How am i supposed to deposit into blink and keep up with Celebrations and the likes if im never able to get online ... I think SOMER should give me a bil free credit because im a loyal customer .... and because im Andrev's love child .... he owes me that much!!! Shocked

Keep up the good works though and missing the banter!!!

Blacky



The Falklands! Did you pi$$ off the Queen?

Too bad you couldn't have gotten some of the mice places (that was a typo, but I thought it was pretty descriptive) I've been stationed, Like Burkina Faso, or the Azores, or the frozen lake in Glacier National Park just south of Point Barrow (which I think was actually a gift to us from our Canadian neighbors), or the research station where I wintered over 600 miles inside the arctic circle or my real favorite Diego Garcia!

Actually, I only used the Azores and Diego Garcia as pre-deloyment preparation and planning which we loosely referred to as "the isolation phase of a mission" The frozen lake was just a training area for about 6 weeks at a time, as was the "mosquito plantation" in Panama. But hey, you know what the civilians say, 20 years in the military is just lke 20 years in any civilian job.

Again, I'm glad your deployment in Afghanistan went well. My wife says hello and wants to know if this is an accompanied tour? (US military for "did the government provide transportation and housing (after taking back your housing allowance) for you wife and family, or did you pay for a ticket and rent a hovel on the local economy for your wife and family or are you just stuck there and she is stuck somewhere else for a year or two?"

Yeah, just like any civilian job. I know there are a lot of very tough civilian jobs and those are not like just any civilian job either.

Stay Healthy, Buddy.

P.S. Trivia - did you know that the longest Bombing mission in history was from England to the Falklands and required 17 inflight refuelings! Maybe you can use that to win a bar bet.
Swedish Spaceman
Norrskensdrommar
#1473 - 2013-03-08 22:01:53 UTC
ECHBlackthorn wrote:
... I hate the Falklands ... worst internet EVAR!!! How am i supposed to deposit into blink and keep up with Celebrations and the likes if im never able to get online ... I think SOMER should give me a bil free credit because im a loyal customer .... and because im Andrev's love child .... he owes me that much!!! Shocked

Keep up the good works though and missing the banter!!!

Blacky


We miss you Blacky...
Qrovax
Canadian Institute of RnD
#1474 - 2013-03-09 04:38:32 UTC
Replacement... While i understand there are reserved brackets for different class blinks, I am talking about a strictly reserved slot for 2 mil items Just 1... If you only have 3 mil left on your blink account and the board is loaded up with blinks above that, you cannot play. Making one reserved slot for the lowest amount will insure that regardless of what is on the board, people will always be able to play. Do it and you will be amazed at how fast the blinks will be flying in.. People that can afford to go bigger or want to play for bigger risks will still get their chance. But as is right now, the possibility exists that someone who could otherwise play.. Wont get the chance to.. and that's not maximizing your system.

As for the Giga... How fun is it when it lasts for a mere 7 minutes... If Joe Blow could only buy 2 tickets.. then everyone else has a chance to play.. If Joe Blow buys 60% of the tickets.. the only 40% of others will get a chance to play.. and that's IF they are lucky enough to play when it goes live BEFORE JOETTE BLOW buys the other 40% or the other ticket hoarders jump in on it.. I'm being hypothetical with the numbers but you get the point. Rich get richer, poor don't get a chance unless they continuously monitor it and if they are quick enough to get in on it. Yes anyone can win with just 1 ticket.. but you are FAR more likely to win when you own most of the tickets and the rich people are aware of this, and that is why they buy as many tickets as they can to turn profit. And that's why it is nothing but a rich game for the rich who can buy all the tickets they can to meet that line of quantity/profit. This is unfair to players who may want to play but don't want to sit refreshing their board every 5 minutes hours on end just hoping for a chance.. I can't see why anyone would complain of capping it except the rich people who are just being greedy trying to win more.
Replacement 234
Tremor Recorded
#1475 - 2013-03-10 14:25:40 UTC
Qrovax wrote:
Replacement... While i understand there are reserved brackets for different class blinks, I am talking about a strictly reserved slot for 2 mil items Just 1... If you only have 3 mil left on your blink account and the board is loaded up with blinks above that, you cannot play. Making one reserved slot for the lowest amount will insure that regardless of what is on the board, people will always be able to play. Do it and you will be amazed at how fast the blinks will be flying in.. People that can afford to go bigger or want to play for bigger risks will still get their chance. But as is right now, the possibility exists that someone who could otherwise play.. Wont get the chance to.. and that's not maximizing your system.

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I have not looked at your background, so I don't know how much experience you have in Eve or Blink. It is almost useless to make assumptions on that kind of data any longer as now people can accounts giving them abilities, but no experiences in how to properly employ those abilities.Fortunately, in real life we don't have a system where someone will say, "Hey, I want to be in the Army, I think I'll buy a 4 star General slot and get to tell a lot of peeps what to do." Oh wait, that did sort of happen on a larger scale, but voting is the system we have and sometimes it works well.

That said, I have a little experience in Eve and Blink and it has not been my experience where there has been a paucity of 2 mil ticket blinks. and of course, withe 30% of the board reserved for the lower tier of prizes and the experience of knowing those are the ones which go the fastest, anyone who wants to start a 2 mil ticket prize has more opportunity to do so than one who wants to start any other tier of prizes. When there are two ultras up, each started by one person with one ticket, they may take 40 minutes to finish. I doubt if any prize in the 30% of the board where 2 mil tickets have reign will ever last more than a couple of minutes.

This is not a an evaluation of you, this is my personal philosophy. If I only had 3mil, I would know my luck is sucking at that point and preserve my capital. I like to live by some personal rules, though I am not always successful even though I know from experience and a knowledge of the theory of probability and the theory of regression toward the mean, that 1. never try to bet your way out of a losing streak as the streak most likely has more patience than most ppl have assets. 2 preserve your capital. If the pond has no fish, stop drowning your supply of worms. 3. Gambling is not a ateady income as random is a thing that does wht you don't expect it to dobecause if it did, then it would not be random. 4. And this is for me and not a judgment of anyone else. I am happy to see others succeed as it shows me that if anyone can, then I can, too. It matters not to me if they have a larger bankroll than I do and I do not begrudge them for the success they have experienced and doing that will not help me but just hold me back. I thik we all started this game with 5k and a crappy ship. Certainly, there are those who introduced RL assets to move themselves forward in the game. But the game is just another part of a person's life and the success or assets from which they have at their disposal can be introduced here to be place at the peril of lose or the joy of gain. Had it not been for an outside bet to drive back to WoW a sniveling no talented wimp who relied on his mommy's credit card to buy him supers and the characters to sit in them so he could amply demonstrate his total absence of ability as his corpmates suffered in a destined to fail fleet, I would not have been propelled to where I am. He was someone who would have the coache's last pick in a little league game who bought his way onto the pitcher's mound in the World Series. He was not an example of the rich get richer. Regardless of the assets at my disposal, when I do dumb things I get less rich and sometimes downright poor, but with a nice stack of stats in my profile. When I play smart, I manage to get ahead.

Based on that experience, I sisagree with your statement that the rich get richer - I think those who play smartly get richer. It has certainly been my experience that I lose when I don't play smartly and I win when I am lucky enough to keep my wits at work.

If the loss of 3 mil is a disaster to you, maybe gambling is not good use of your time. And if you are too anxious to place the one last bet you can make, you could be pro-active and start a blink in the ticket price range of your choice. That 30% of the board is the fastest moving part, anyway.
Replacement 234
Tremor Recorded
#1476 - 2013-03-10 18:32:45 UTC
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Qrovax wrote:
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As for the Giga... How fun is it when it lasts for a mere 7 minutes... If Joe Blow could only buy 2 tickets.. then everyone else has a chance to play.. If Joe Blow buys 60% of the tickets.. the only 40% of others will get a chance to play.. and that's IF they are lucky enough to play when it goes live BEFORE JOETTE BLOW buys the other 40% or the other ticket hoarders jump in on it.. I'm being hypothetical with the numbers but you get the point. Rich get richer, poor don't get a chance unless they continuously monitor it and if they are quick enough to get in on it. Yes anyone can win with just 1 ticket.. but you are FAR more likely to win when you own most of the tickets and the rich people are aware of this, and that is why they buy as many tickets as they can to turn profit. And that's why it is nothing but a rich game for the rich who can buy all the tickets they can to meet that line of quantity/profit. This is unfair to players who may want to play but don't want to sit refreshing their board every 5 minutes hours on end just hoping for a chance.. I can't see why anyone would complain of capping it except the rich people who are just being greedy trying to win more.


Gigas and Promos are benefits of playing the game, of being present in the casino when a "Special" is announced. That is why there is no schedule or prior announcement of them. You mention a giga that "lasts for a mere 7 minutes". Actually, that is about 6 minutes too long. The people who get in early are the ones in the casino, who are playing and paying attention and hop on opportunities when they appear. Gigas and promos that take a long time to complete are finally finished when the people who are not in the casino playing games and spending isk and helpind to pay for the prizes, particularly on the promo. and often on the Giga when the prize value exceeeds the total amassed by ticket sales. When they take long it is because the ones who have to complete it are not doing anything right now to help pay for the the special being presented or they are not paying attention. This is a game of micro-lotteries that finish in minutes. And like any buffet, the tasty stuff goes faster.

Your example of Joe and Joette buying all the tickets between the two of them and then going on to say the rich get richer is a contradiction. One of them will lose. Speaking from experience, anyone who owns half the tickets in a giga and loses, gets a signicant giant step away from being space rich, at least in the relative world of space richness I have been lucky enough to sometimes enjoy.

I am concentrating on winning an achievement for heroing a Giga, so I am only buying one ticket in each one. Before this achievement and after I finally achieve it, my giga practice has been, usually, to wait for a number of minutes for others to select numbers with the few I have placed upon my arrival. Once enough time for the present and alert to have bought a ticket, I will usually close out the board and sometimes that brings me a winner, but I have lost with over 50 of the 64 tickets on a jump freighter. On that occasion, the somewhat rich did not get richer, a single ticket holder did, and the somewhat rich player got considerably less than somewhat rich..

I do see a theme in your posts based on your many references to the rich get richer. To quote the millionaire playboy who inherited his in the movie "The Barefoot Countessa" when he heard someone say the same phrase. He replied, "to turn 100 dollars into 110 dollars is a very difficult task, but to turn 1 million dollars into 110 million dollars is an inevitability." That was his only decent line in the movie and it has stuck with me for at least 40 years. It has driven me to compete on the most level playing fields I can find. That helped me in my career wherever talent and opportunity occurred simultaneously. And it helps me in this game where luck is much more necessaty than any other venue in which I have strived.

I have never gambled in real life, other than playing poker with other young soldiers when I first went into the Army. I stopped that because losing friends by winning a few dollars was a bad trade. I've never bought a lottery ticket or even dropped a coin in a slot machine, though I have spent many, many days in casino hotels where the Army finds it cheaper to lodge conference members and to obtain conference facilities. Airfares are often cheaper and more available, too. That gave me plenty of opportunities to view the behaviors of gamblers without being distracted by my probably dwindling chips. I saw anger directed at those who knew enough about the game to play the smarter bets and the frustration of those who thought there really exists a "law of averages" and their number was "due". I saw those who brought used car automotive assets to a game where success favored those with grand prix assets who could weather the loses and knew when to quit while others drove their bankroll till it died.

I do take exception to your statement about the rich people being greedy and just wanting to make more. Are you saying you have an upward limit where once you reach a some level of winning, you will not want more, that you will stop playing?

The problem for new plyers with limited resurces is not that sometimes the rich do manage to get richer, it is understanding how that happens - when - it happens.

I remember hearing a man place a single large bet on a roulette wheel game, a form of gambling reserved for those who like to lose, and telling the scantilly clad beauty posted there to help attract men to the gme (it worked for me). He said, " this is all I have and I'm 15 bucks shy of my rent so it won't really matter if I lose, I'm already going to get evicted." I thought about giving him 15 bucks, but then I realized he'd toss it on hoping for a sofa.

Good luck, Bon Chance, I hope you get RICH!
Replacement 234
Tremor Recorded
#1477 - 2013-03-11 02:43:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Replacement 234
Now that it is not the middle of the night...

I barely addressed this critical part of your piece I have quoted below:

"rich get richer, poor don't get a chance unless they continuously monitor it and if they are quick enough to get in on it. Yes anyone can win with just 1 ticket.. but you are FAR more likely to win when you own most of the tickets and the rich people are aware of this,"

"Poor don't get a chance unless they continously monitor..." It doesn't cost anything to monitor, it takes concentration - poor concentration skills cannot become rich concentration skills depending upon one's wallet content. It is a frame of mind, its self discipline. There comes a time in everyone's life when telling the teacher the dog ate your homework won't work anymore, because people discover they must first do their homework before the dog can eat it.

Get rid of the class warfare attitude about how those with more assets have more advantages and get busy making it possible for you to have more advantages, too.

There is a thing called poverty mentality - I know it well as I grew up in a house full of it. No one from my family was expected to go to college. I think my parents and two older siblings chanted to my mother's preggy bump (me), "you will never go to college, it costs too much money, no one in this family can fit in with the the brainiacs, they all come from rich homes, their brains are better, they all know which fork to use, you should be happy looking forward to a minimum wage job, get used to goodwill clothes or worse, it is the best you will ever have, you will drive yourself crazy trying to succeed at anything, your place in life is to be shiftless and gripe about everyones's success and how it could be you, but they had advantages you didn't have or deserve, embrace your poverty, use it as a shield whenever anyone talks to you about improving yourself, hide behind it whenever you are around those who were destined for success from birth, join only with others who embrace their poverty mentality, always strive for nothing better than second best, always buy the dented can, but pay full price for it knowing that the rich are just getting back at by not putting that dented can in their shopping cart because they probably have a pantry that costs more than where you live, dream of living in a small camping trailer all your life, you don't even deserve something that nice, if you ever do get a pair of new shoes, rough them up or people will think you are just showing off, get used to having help from the government for everything, one day when there are more thinking like you than the like the rich do, all of you can vote in someone who will take the money away from the rich and give it to you, spread the word....

Your family life was YOURSe, I hope it was better. I would like to think there is not another person in the world who feels their childhood was anything like mine, but I have talked to far too many who were raised that way. I hope no one reading this lived that childhood. No one reach out or ridicule. It was what it was. I've gone through all that and have accepted what I cannot change. I am now focused on changing what I can change where I once wallowed in what I could not change.

Here are some things to think about. Don't tell anyone else about your thoughts unless you really want to and choose that person carefully, but mainly just think about it.

1. If you have only enough isk to buy two tickets and some one who buys a single ticket might he/she look at you and say you had twice as much of a chance to win as they did, so you must be a greedy rich person.

2. What if you had enough to buy 10 tickets, would you?

3. if you only have enough to buy two tickets and you don't win, what difference does it make if the winner bought 20 or just one ticket? Either one could have bought the number you wanted. Would you feel the same way abut the person who won with a single ticket than about the guy who won with a single tickets and paid for 19 losing tickets? Would you feel the same way about 19 other people who were holding a single losing ticket. Do you feel your life is better or worse becasue the person who won held more tickets than you did? Or fewer tickets than you?

We are in agreement on a point I vaguely addressed earlier and would like to expound a little further.

This is just me. There were times when I did not know how often Jump Freighters appeared in Gigas, so I would mention in chat that I needed however many it was to reach that achievement and was was going to buy aggressively whenever they appeared, and I bought tickets till there there were no more to buy. It simply killed me the first time I tried and had about 22 tickets and lost my entire blink wallet.

I decided to be more gentlemanly about it and buy 3 or 4 tickets and wait a little to give others the chance to get in. At first I anounceced in chat that when the then present Giga hit 20 minutes, I would be buying the remainder of the tickets, and I did, sometimes losing, As I sat there, I thought about what could be holding up people from buying tickets? Are they trying to mine, rat, salvage, mission, PvP some more isk to buy a ticket? I was watching the Barrett Jackson Auto Auction on TV while refreshing the giga screen every few seconds and decided 20 minutes was way too long. Just like on Barrett Jackson, either someone was here to play or they weren't. I cut it back to five minutes. Then along came a lot of other players who were going into blinks like it was a Walmart Half Off Sale and some Gigas lasted 20 seconds during busy times. So now, it is pretty much like feeding time at the Beagle Barn so if you snooze, you lose. Anyone who hopes to participate in a Giga needs to always have enough in their wallet to do it they way they want to do it or just miss out. That kind of goes along with conserving your capital.

Good Luck to ya!
iKill Giants
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1478 - 2013-03-13 18:59:12 UTC
2muchmoney from blink
Vargruk Hornet
Moon Liberation Express
#1479 - 2013-03-14 10:11:29 UTC
Main question, why there is no @get banned@ button on main website.Where whole screen warning about isk losing?
One way trip.
Swedish Spaceman
Norrskensdrommar
#1480 - 2013-03-14 10:20:35 UTC
Vargruk Hornet wrote:
Main question, why there is no @get banned@ button on main website.Where whole screen warning about isk losing?
One way trip.


It is gambling after all, like eve's rule about not flying what you cant afford to lose.
Blink 's rule is dont gamble what you cant afford to lose.

And if you want to quit blink, but find it hard to resist playing, then change your pasword to something random that you wont remember.

For me, Blink is about having fun, and sometimes that includes winning something :p