EVE New Citizens Q&A

So I'm new, still on a trial and hoping to upgrade eventually. My question is related to the viability of being a space trader, miner, industrialist, or other less aggressive means of making ISK and building contacts. Are there tutorials you all would recommend forthis sort of thing? I'm still running missions and imagine they will teach me some, but I kind of want to know whAt to expect prior to paying for a sub.

If there are folks looking for a particular ore and just don't want to do the mining, maybe we could make a deal? I'm really looking for something low-stress and relaxing to do with this character to build isk and have fun.


Help?

Thank you! I guess I should have qualified my 'low stress' comment - I meant not pvp focused, though I know all about lowsec and no sec and that the best advice to follow is to follow no advice. Lol.

I took the personality test and results varied from planetary industrialist to miner, to trader. Just hoping for some quickstart tips in that direction.

I'll read through your post! Thank you.

Yes, you can play EVE in a largely relaxing, non-PvP manner. Mission running, high-sec mining, wormhole mining, exploration, trading, Planetary Interaction and R&D all can be done in relaxing bits each day. Figuring them all out can be expensive, frustrating and, perhaps, fraught with just a bit of danger as you work out the wrinkles. EVE is really one big enormous intricate puzzle just yearning to be discovered and unraveled by the ever-patient investigator (or its just a pew-pew game for the idle minded).

You might want to seek out a like-minded corporation to join to make things a tad easier; or, simply go it alone as it is really only an investment in time ... relaxing, cursor blinking, mesmerizing time with wee bits of OMG tossed in just to make sure you are paying attention.

They call it a sandbox game but for the laid-back, relaxing type of player it is more like a jungle. You have to establish your little income-generating enterprise amidst a variety of clear and present dangers which are ever more bitefull and venomous the further you venture from home. This is the game-the-gamers style of play and it pisses them off royally as you become more and more difficult to trick and kill. A fun style of play in its own right. Often refered to in the forums as Carebear'ish.

Trading is the least stressful thing you can do.

In the market there is a lot of cooperation between the players so no one loses all their isk that time I invested every isk into 1 thing and the bottom fell out

Others have basically covered what you can do to make a living without PVP but a couple of things to add.

Remember that even if you choose to never PVP (lock another persons ship and blowing them up) it does not mean that others cant and wont do it to you. If you join a corp you should expect to get war decced at some point, you have people who will suecide gank your miner/hauler and you have people who will try to trick you into a situation were you can end up loosing your ship.
That being said, it is fully possible to work around all these things, but at some points it requieres a bit more patience and restrictions.

But another thing i want to "warn" you about. Dont let someone.. bully you into doing something you dont like because your not "cool" enough. Believe it or not but yes it does happen
If you join a corp, and have made it completely clear you wont PVP, dont let them force you or harass you into doing so. The same goes for these forums. A lot of people have a lot to say about people who choose to not PVP and i can understand that especially for new players some of the comments can make it seem like your doing something "wrong" because you play in a certain way. Dont take it personal.

For making contacts.. This is a question that dont have an easy answear. Anyone you meet are a potential friend or enemy. A former corp member as an example, that random new player you met in the rookie channel, the recruiter you talked to so many years ago, that random person in a belt you ended up chatting with. The only advice i can give you here is dont be afraid to be social. Ask questions, joke around, join public channels, be active in local (unless your corp has rules against it). But be careful with what you say and how you word your self. Dont give away sensetive information about your self or the corp, dont badmouth someone in public just because you can, dont be rude... you get the idea. People are more likely to want to talk to you and be respectful if you treat them the same way. Remember that in EVE your reputation follow you, and at times it can be difficult to make up for it, even if it was just one simple mistake.

Good luck and welcome to EVE

Just an FYI, the only way to entirely avoid PvP in this game is to never undock. Conflict will find you whether you like it or not and whether you're prepared for it or not. It will happen sooner or later. That's just the nature of the game. If you cannot accept that, then you're playing the wrong game.

just a few small additions:
1. trading is about as 'pvp' as it gets. with the exception of a few specific items everything on the market is there because someone wants to sell it. if you want your stuff to sell before theirs, you will have to engage in market pvp.
2. there is a lot of money to be made with trading, but you have to be good at 'sniffing a deal', at least as long as you do not have a solid starting capital that will work for you.

Hell, for me there is nothing more relaxing and stress relieving than taking a small gang of mates out to stalk and kill some unsuspecting prey. Good conversation, a few beers, a few laughs and hopefully a couple of kills to talk about.

That said, for those evenings when we get blobbed 5 to 1 by an "elite PVP" Naga gang, sometimes spending a few hours chewing on some rocks in the relative safety of high sec to recoup the losses and asses where I went wrong is whats needed.

Try the different career paths. Some make more ISK than others, but do what you enjoy doing not what brings in the most ISK.

Because you already had a shitload of useful answers will only add this:

Keep in mind that just because you want a non combat lifestyle in EVE it doesn't mean that others will honor that. EVE is a hard and cold place, people can pull you into PvP when ever you are not docked in a station if they want too.