EVE General Discussion

How many people have noticed that there is only one dedicated shield tanking hybrids platform for battleships ( Rokh)?

I gather this has more to do with caldari only using hybrids as a secondary platform, and them being among the only big shield tankers ( with minmatar shield tanking a few ships).

Is there any where in the game where this combination could be realized or am I ignorant to some very viable shield tanked hybrid battleship? And I'm not talking about shield vindicators, shield tanking something that has the intention of being armor tanked laid out in its slots does not make it a dedicated shield tank ship.



***Title updated for the more general topic of battleship roles***

Forgot about this too. Seems there are a few holes in the battleship class role list.

Although its pretty easy to shift minmatar ships around for tanking type / missiles and projectiles

Given the limited factions that shield tank there doesn't seem to be room in the game to insert a hybrid shield battleship besides the rokh, which is primarily about damage projection. I supposed there is only one laser shield battleship too. There is a lot more variety in armor tanked ships than shields at first glance

I always liked the idea of Mark II T1 Vessels sort of like how the Onyx and the Eagle use the Moa Model a Mark II Ship would do the same but Racial Mark II's would not like up in class or tier.

An example a Naga Mk II that has 8 Missile Hardpoints, a RoF Bonus and a Missile Velocity Bonus or a Scorpion with a 5% Shield Resist Bonus and a 5% Hybrid Damage Bonus making it a big Merlin.

While say Gallente would have an Armor Rail Megathron Mk II as a range ship with 8 turrets and an Optimal + Tracking Bonus or a Vexor Mk II with a 25m3 Drone Bay 5 Blaster Turrets and a 7.5 Armor Rep Bonus.

Alternate idea's CCP and players might like but could not do. The problem with filling a role in a Racial lineup currently is that while one race might have more designs that work with X Ship type you are limited by other races need for an equal ship even if there is not much demand.

Cruisers for an example.

1 Logistic
1 EWAR
1 Attack
1 Combat

Now the Devs might want an active tanker for the Gallente Cruiser lineup, but with the Drone Vexor and the Fast Attack Thorax they are now out of options. The only solution now would be costly, IE: design 4 new ships 1 for each race then find a role for them.

For a Mark II Ship instead you use the same model and fill the gap in ship number elsewhere.

Missile Naga
Active Vexor
HAM Maller
Opt Bonus Arty Tempest

Each race gets a new ship but X race like has more options in say Battleships while Y Race is Cruiser Heavy and Z Race is all about the Frigates.

Rail Merlin
Rail Megathron
TD / Neut Bonused Geddon with Missile and Drone bay light defense
Remote Tracking / Sebo Scythe

So now certain gaps are filled like Gals Fleet battleship or the Missile Tier 3 without sacrifices to the ships we love.

Why is there another thread on this and why aren't either of them in ships and modules?

This is the sad truth. Would be interesting to hear if CCP actually wanted battleships to be just that and nothing more, or if they are open to versatility in the ship class. Thats where I think the scorpion is a great example of the variety that a battleship can offer in different roles, yet not compete for the same role as the falcon.

You should get a domi, fit it with long range sentry drones, a micro jump drive, drone upgrade mods, and neuts in the highslots.

It absolutely destroys people. Warp to known gatecamp at 100k. Deploy sentries. Jump away 100k. Enemies get hammered by the sentries while flying 200k towards you. They can either stop at the halfway point to deal with the sentries (to which you deploy more from your current location) or they skip them and come after you. If they choose the latter, you jump away again.

There are alternatives, but none of them uses Caldari Battleship training. Kinda sad, since Rokh on its own is an amazing ship.

i just hope we can go back to the good old days when battleships were a desirable ship to fly. we're finally moving away from this situation where BC's have pretty much been the class of choice for all situations, except super blobs.

then again that's like saying i'd like a reason for fleet commanders to fly command ships.

Who needs more than 1 shield tanked BS when you have the the mother******* Rohk?!?!

I have always thought we could do with one more BS for each race, bring in EWAR for the others and Caldari can have something else added to their types of DPS.