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Changes for Naga and amarr Battleships
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Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-03-03 23:35:09 UTC
Sergant Steel wrote:

actually i think u will find the prefered mission boat cos of drones is the apoc especially navy issue then u can have 3 sentries and 5 lights


Who cares what's used for missions? Navy Raven can also carry 3 sentries and 5 lights, yet I've NEVER heard anyone call it a drone boat before, nor was that ever a reason why it's used in missions, Meanwhile, the navy armageddon can carry a full flight of sentries, a full flight of lights and still has room for one light flight or utility drones, acting as a hybrid drone/laser boat. Indeed, if you'll compare, you'll see that it gets roughly a third of its damage from drones, making it sort of reverse Dominix (which gets two thirds of its damage from drones).
Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-03-03 23:49:43 UTC
If you make the naga a exclusively missile boat NOBODY WILL EVER FLY IT AGAIN IN A FLEET EVER.

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#23 - 2013-03-04 02:41:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Daichi Yamato
Sergant Steel wrote:
Caitlyn Tufy wrote:
Sergant Steel wrote:
Personally i think the naga should be a large missile platform because the teir 3's seem to follow their races style/speciality.


No. Caldari use railguns too, Naga fits.

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Secondly i have noticed the minmatar have a better drone battleship than the amarr typhoon vs armageddon. Personally i feel that the apoc should have more drones as it does not have a damage bonus like the abbadon and the armageddon. Maybe give it 125 bandwith and 200 drone bay to allow 5 heavies/sentreis 5 meds and 5 lights so its better than the typhoon but not as good as the dominix and if this does happen may i suggest a change for the apoc navy issue to follow suit (just change bandwith and bay).


No. Typhoon is getting changed and the Amarr "droneboat" is Armageddon, not Apocalypse.

actually i think u will find the prefered mission boat cos of drones is the apoc especially navy issue then u can have 3 sentries and 5 lights


u are completely mixed up.

geddon 125 b/width 125m3
navy geddon 125 b/width 175m3

Apoc 75 b/width 75m3
Navy-Poc 75 b/width 100m3

the reason the apoc is popular is because it can reach long ranges with high damage-fast tracking (relative to beams) pulse lasers and has a fast cap recharge rate. by comparison, a navy geddon can barely fit a T2 tank and guns without help from fitting implants/rigs/mods.

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Sergant Steel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-03-06 02:23:25 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Sergant Steel wrote:
Caitlyn Tufy wrote:
Sergant Steel wrote:
Personally i think the naga should be a large missile platform because the teir 3's seem to follow their races style/speciality.


No. Caldari use railguns too, Naga fits.

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Secondly i have noticed the minmatar have a better drone battleship than the amarr typhoon vs armageddon. Personally i feel that the apoc should have more drones as it does not have a damage bonus like the abbadon and the armageddon. Maybe give it 125 bandwith and 200 drone bay to allow 5 heavies/sentreis 5 meds and 5 lights so its better than the typhoon but not as good as the dominix and if this does happen may i suggest a change for the apoc navy issue to follow suit (just change bandwith and bay).


No. Typhoon is getting changed and the Amarr "droneboat" is Armageddon, not Apocalypse.

actually i think u will find the prefered mission boat cos of drones is the apoc especially navy issue then u can have 3 sentries and 5 lights


u are completely mixed up.

geddon 125 b/width 125m3
navy geddon 125 b/width 175m3

Apoc 75 b/width 75m3
Navy-Poc 75 b/width 100m3

the reason the apoc is popular is because it can reach long ranges with high damage-fast tracking (relative to beams) pulse lasers and has a fast cap recharge rate. by comparison, a navy geddon can barely fit a T2 tank and guns without help from fitting implants/rigs/mods.

Hence why i said its the preferred missionboat
Akara Ito
Phalanx Solutions
#25 - 2013-03-06 02:57:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Akara Ito
Sinigr Shadowsong wrote:
Large missiles are bad. Just bad as Motorcycle at a peaks of Himalayas. That's why there are no missile Tier3 BC.

To amarr ships: I personally think amarr BS lineup is plain boring.

Armageddon: passive armor tank laser damage slow movement.
Apocalypse: passive armor tank laser damage slow movement.
Abaddon: passive armor tank laser damage slow movement.

No imagination, no variety, no complexity. I understand that those ships have their flavours, but to me it's just like:
- Fish with vegetables
- Fish with potato
- Fish with salad


Actually, the Geddon is a brawler since it can get nice dps using heavies and it has a utility high for a neut. The Rebalancing will probably make it a bit lighter to make it even better at brawling.
The Apoc is mostly a sniper but also a quite good medium range BS with pulse lasers and generally low sp friendly.
The Abaddon is a huge brick, it has the best ehp as well as the best dps at medium ranges with a full rack of guns and a damage bonus.

One of the devs made a vague comment in another thread that an Amarr drone bs would be a new hull, probably an ew/drone thing to give every race an ew bs like the Scorpion.
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