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Margin trading skill is a scam but no retribution.
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Akara Ito
Phalanx Solutions
#81 - 2013-02-22 16:12:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Akara Ito
RavenTesio wrote:
The Skill is intended as a tool to improve your Market Trading ability, someone who is using it for Scamming is Exploiting said still and thus breaking the EULA.


Using Eve content in a way thats not intended by CCP breaks nothing.
Seriously its like you want to ban people for armor tanking Drakes.

The skill is fine and people using it in creative ways probably deserve the money they scam.
Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#82 - 2013-02-22 16:35:49 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Remove margin trading. Don't got the isk? Don't trade.Roll

Dont got the brain to identify them.Dont trade!!Roll
Mike Milkem
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#83 - 2013-02-23 00:35:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Mike Milkem
Weasel Juice wrote:
Mike Milkem wrote:
My reply to a CCP customer service rep, regarding the use of "escrow" and EvE's broker fees.



CCP does not gain profits from taxes. They are effectively providing an isk sink to balance inflation by destroying isk.




Um, if you spend real money for a plex and that is converted into ISK then yes they do make money (a little) off of ISK sinks.

That isn't the point though, you are effectively taxed for a phantom transaction. If CCP is going to invalidate the transaction for lack of funds (which is problematic to begin with) then they should invalidate the whole transaction (to include the sale order and brokers fees). To invalidate the buy-side of the transaction and compel the sell-side (of the transaction w/tax) is capricious and erratic conduct.
Either invalidate the full transaction from both parties or hold the escrow and distribute it as remedy to the aggrieved party (because amazingly that is what escrow is for).
Epsilon Bathana
EPS Kings
#84 - 2013-02-23 01:07:06 UTC
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Either invalidate the full transaction from both parties or hold the escrow and distribute it as remedy to the aggrieved party (because amazingly that is what escrow is for).


Absolutely. CCP used the term "ESCROW" which has RL meaning for something else in the game. People actually familiar with it are being misled into a false sense of security. People say that it is a mistake you (have to) make once.

Well, that argument would also be applicable if CCP used the term "sell" for operations having the meaning donate/give away for feel. But somehow I expect that would result in a lot more discontent and complains from the players and brushoffs "you have to know what you are doing" and "It is CCP's game, and even if by definition something is an exploit, it is not such until CCP clasifies it officially as such" would not be accepted