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Cyclone The much better drake.

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destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Looking for Trouble
#1 - 2013-02-20 17:03:49 UTC
Still trying to wrap my head around the fact CCP made the cyclone a missile boat. Shocked not sure why they didnt just make it 7 turret slow boat. instead of missile.

Minmatar pride on their duck tape. and chewing gum. and their AC and artty. but missiles :| only missile boats of minnietar that are actually handy are.

Typhoon < which needs some serious love :)
Talwar,
and hound.

but WHY CCP WHY WHY WHY do you have to make the minmatar more like Caldari!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-02-20 17:08:31 UTC
destiny2 wrote:
Still trying to wrap my head around the fact CCP made the cyclone a missile boat. Shocked not sure why they didnt just make it 7 turret slow boat. instead of missile.

Minmatar pride on their duck tape. and chewing gum. and their AC and artty. but missiles :| only missile boats of minnietar that are actually handy are.

Typhoon < which needs some serious love :)
Talwar,
and hound.

but WHY CCP WHY WHY WHY do you have to make the minmatar more like Caldari!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If you had bothered to read the dev notes about the change, you would know why. It is precisely because of that big-ass gap between the Talwar and the Typhoon - so that players that like Minmatar, like Missiles, and like Battlecruisers have something to fly.

On second thought, I am tired of trying to apply reasoned argument to these threads.

Ahem.

They did it just to **** you off. Yes you, destiny2. You personally are the reason CCP did this, because they coveted your forum tears. Mission Accomplished.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Looking for Trouble
#3 - 2013-02-20 17:11:06 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
Still trying to wrap my head around the fact CCP made the cyclone a missile boat. Shocked not sure why they didnt just make it 7 turret slow boat. instead of missile.

Minmatar pride on their duck tape. and chewing gum. and their AC and artty. but missiles :| only missile boats of minnietar that are actually handy are.

Typhoon < which needs some serious love :)
Talwar,
and hound.

but WHY CCP WHY WHY WHY do you have to make the minmatar more like Caldari!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If you had bothered to read the dev notes about the change, you would know why. It is precisely because of that big-ass gap between the Talwar and the Typhoon - so that players that like Minmatar, like Missiles, and like Battlecruisers have something to fly.

On second thought, I am tired of trying to apply reasoned argument to these threads.

Ahem.

They did it just to **** you off. Yes you, destiny2. You personally are the reason CCP did this, because they coveted your forum tears. Mission Accomplished.



aww you must be still mad, cause my alliance owned the **** outta ya :)
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#4 - 2013-02-20 17:13:02 UTC
To me, the changes to the Cyclone make me interested in flying it for the first time. It may indeed be better than my entirely satisfactory Drake (new and improved! Now with Retribution 1.1 inside!).

So for me at least, R.1.1 has met its goals. And who knows? Maybe the Cyclone may suit me better?

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-02-20 17:13:25 UTC
destiny2 wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
Still trying to wrap my head around the fact CCP made the cyclone a missile boat. Shocked not sure why they didnt just make it 7 turret slow boat. instead of missile.

Minmatar pride on their duck tape. and chewing gum. and their AC and artty. but missiles :| only missile boats of minnietar that are actually handy are.

Typhoon < which needs some serious love :)
Talwar,
and hound.

but WHY CCP WHY WHY WHY do you have to make the minmatar more like Caldari!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If you had bothered to read the dev notes about the change, you would know why. It is precisely because of that big-ass gap between the Talwar and the Typhoon - so that players that like Minmatar, like Missiles, and like Battlecruisers have something to fly.

On second thought, I am tired of trying to apply reasoned argument to these threads.

Ahem.

They did it just to **** you off. Yes you, destiny2. You personally are the reason CCP did this, because they coveted your forum tears. Mission Accomplished.



aww you must be still mad, cause my alliance owned the **** outta ya :)


And you must still be mad because we were smart enough to leave Intrepid Crossing before it went completely **** up.Roll

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
feihcsiM
THE B0YS
#6 - 2013-02-20 17:14:24 UTC
Breacher > Talwar > Bellicose > Cyclone > Typhoon is the progression they are going for I think.

I personally like it - Minnie still has the split projectile/missile weapons systems they always had but they are now more tightly focused in ship 'lines' rather than each ship having an underwhelming split weapons system.

It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#7 - 2013-02-20 17:15:22 UTC
Cyclone The cumbersome Caracal ?

i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling.
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Looking for Trouble
#8 - 2013-02-20 17:15:57 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
Still trying to wrap my head around the fact CCP made the cyclone a missile boat. Shocked not sure why they didnt just make it 7 turret slow boat. instead of missile.

Minmatar pride on their duck tape. and chewing gum. and their AC and artty. but missiles :| only missile boats of minnietar that are actually handy are.

Typhoon < which needs some serious love :)
Talwar,
and hound.

but WHY CCP WHY WHY WHY do you have to make the minmatar more like Caldari!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If you had bothered to read the dev notes about the change, you would know why. It is precisely because of that big-ass gap between the Talwar and the Typhoon - so that players that like Minmatar, like Missiles, and like Battlecruisers have something to fly.

On second thought, I am tired of trying to apply reasoned argument to these threads.

Ahem.

They did it just to **** you off. Yes you, destiny2. You personally are the reason CCP did this, because they coveted your forum tears. Mission Accomplished.



aww you must be still mad, cause my alliance owned the **** outta ya :)


And you must still be mad because we were smart enough to leave Intrepid Crossing before it went completely **** up.Roll


LOL IRC good times :D. but its all good. you guys where horrible at pvp and still are. :)
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#9 - 2013-02-20 17:16:14 UTC
Same reason the Prophecy is the new Myrmidon: Overlapping military doctrine and the need for transitional ships for people to fly.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#10 - 2013-02-20 17:17:20 UTC
Ottersmacker wrote:
Cyclone The cumbersome Caracal ?
Well, the Caracal doesn't suk any longer, so who knows? Maybe just so.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#11 - 2013-02-20 17:19:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
destiny2 wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
Still trying to wrap my head around the fact CCP made the cyclone a missile boat. Shocked not sure why they didnt just make it 7 turret slow boat. instead of missile.

Minmatar pride on their duck tape. and chewing gum. and their AC and artty. but missiles :| only missile boats of minnietar that are actually handy are.

Typhoon < which needs some serious love :)
Talwar,
and hound.

but WHY CCP WHY WHY WHY do you have to make the minmatar more like Caldari!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If you had bothered to read the dev notes about the change, you would know why. It is precisely because of that big-ass gap between the Talwar and the Typhoon - so that players that like Minmatar, like Missiles, and like Battlecruisers have something to fly.

On second thought, I am tired of trying to apply reasoned argument to these threads.

Ahem.

They did it just to **** you off. Yes you, destiny2. You personally are the reason CCP did this, because they coveted your forum tears. Mission Accomplished.



aww you must be still mad, cause my alliance owned the **** outta ya :)


Smile

Personal reasons aside, he is quite correct in that missiles are a logical weapons system for the Cyclone.

Missiles are the Minmatar secondary weapon system (and an excellent one for them to have as it compliments their play style) yet it has been rather under represented. The closest thing that had up until now were some dual weapons system boats that in general under performed for that reason. Since there seems to be a trend away from dual weapons systems now (thank god) it was inevitable that we would see a variety of missile dedicated Minmatar ships emerge... and the Cyclone fills the gap quite nicely.

You should probably give missiles a whirl, they are an extremely good choice for high speed hit and run tactics.

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Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#12 - 2013-02-20 17:23:34 UTC
It's not better.

I've been severely disappointed, it did better damage (actual damage) with turrets. If you can believe that.

Where I am.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-02-20 17:29:20 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
Still trying to wrap my head around the fact CCP made the cyclone a missile boat. Shocked not sure why they didnt just make it 7 turret slow boat. instead of missile.

Minmatar pride on their duck tape. and chewing gum. and their AC and artty. but missiles :| only missile boats of minnietar that are actually handy are.

Typhoon < which needs some serious love :)
Talwar,
and hound.

but WHY CCP WHY WHY WHY do you have to make the minmatar more like Caldari!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If you had bothered to read the dev notes about the change, you would know why. It is precisely because of that big-ass gap between the Talwar and the Typhoon - so that players that like Minmatar, like Missiles, and like Battlecruisers have something to fly.

On second thought, I am tired of trying to apply reasoned argument to these threads.

Ahem.

They did it just to **** you off. Yes you, destiny2. You personally are the reason CCP did this, because they coveted your forum tears. Mission Accomplished.



aww you must be still mad, cause my alliance owned the **** outta ya :)


Smile

Personal reasons aside, he is quite correct in that missiles are a logical weapons system for the Cyclone.

Missiles are the Minmatar secondary weapon system (and an excellent one for them to have as it compliments their play style) yet it has been rather under represented. The closest thing that had up until now were some dual weapons system boats that in general under performed for that reason. Since there seems to be a trend away from dual weapons systems now (thank god) it was inevitable that we would see a variety of missile dedicated Minmatar ships emerge... and the Cyclone fills the gap quite nicely.

You should probably give missiles a whirl, they are an extremely good choice for high speed hit and run tactics.


Damnit Ranger, you're ruining my temper tantrum against the stupid repetitive threads.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Speedkermit Damo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-02-20 17:32:45 UTC
Cyclone may actuallly be better than the Hurricane now.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#15 - 2013-02-20 17:34:26 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:
It's not better.

I've been severely disappointed, it did better damage (actual damage) with turrets. If you can believe that.


Not better than a Drake, or not better than it previously was?

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#16 - 2013-02-20 17:36:58 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:
It's not better.

I've been severely disappointed, it did better damage (actual damage) with turrets. If you can believe that.



Sincere question then, how are your missile skills compared to your projectile skills?

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Hannibal Ord
Fer-De-Lance
#17 - 2013-02-20 17:39:03 UTC
destiny2 wrote:
Still trying to wrap my head around the fact CCP made the cyclone a missile boat. Shocked not sure why they didnt just make it 7 turret slow boat. instead of missile.

Minmatar pride on their duck tape. and chewing gum. and their AC and artty. but missiles :| only missile boats of minnietar that are actually handy are.

Typhoon < which needs some serious love :)
Talwar,
and hound.

but WHY CCP WHY WHY WHY do you have to make the minmatar more like Caldari!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




You good sir are a complete tool.

Nevermind the perfect point made by the poster below you, EVE online would be pretty boring if CCP decided that we should have two Hurricanes.
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Looking for Trouble
#18 - 2013-02-20 17:39:46 UTC
projectiles did insta damage which is nice in pvp missiles is like fire. wait....... 10s hit. fire. wait....... 10s hit
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Looking for Trouble
#19 - 2013-02-20 17:41:09 UTC
Hannibal Ord wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
Still trying to wrap my head around the fact CCP made the cyclone a missile boat. Shocked not sure why they didnt just make it 7 turret slow boat. instead of missile.

Minmatar pride on their duck tape. and chewing gum. and their AC and artty. but missiles :| only missile boats of minnietar that are actually handy are.

Typhoon < which needs some serious love :)
Talwar,
and hound.

but WHY CCP WHY WHY WHY do you have to make the minmatar more like Caldari!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




You good sir are a complete tool.

Nevermind the perfect point made by the poster below you, EVE online would be pretty boring if CCP decided that we should have two Hurricanes.


to bad it already has two canes sleipnir is still a projectile boat. much better then the cane by far tho.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#20 - 2013-02-20 17:43:01 UTC
destiny2 wrote:
projectiles did insta damage which is nice in pvp missiles is like fire. wait....... 10s hit. fire. wait....... 10s hit

In a continued fire fight, the delay between hits is equal to your rate of fire. Merely switching targets adds another flight time delay.

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