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Making 1.0 pvp free for 0.6 and 0.5 - low sec. Fair trade?
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Molenius Morrowinger
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-02-20 03:41:13 UTC
As subj states if this is fair enough to do some changes which will acomodate both sides:
1.0 - becomes carebear heaven,
0.6 and 0.5 - becomes low sec.

Advantages:
1. High sec population get their pvp free zones (I think nobody suicides in 1.0 anyway),
2. Low sec expanded splitting high-sec in to isles fixing risk / reward issue when you need to take risk to trade between hubs,
3. mining in 1.0 will be depleted soon, meaning more miners need to play MMO style asking others for protecting and ops in mining in low sec,
4. Prices will go high fixing the economy inflation and increasing ship demand due to more losses.

Anything else?
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#2 - 2013-02-20 03:44:49 UTC
Alana Charen-Teng
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-02-20 03:45:14 UTC
If you want a PVP-free zone, then you're playing the wrong game.
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#4 - 2013-02-20 03:49:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tah'ris Khlador
This thread is new and original and certainly doesn't belong in the Features and Ideas forum.

But no, seriously, this thread concept has been beaten to death. No good will come of this thread. If I could login right now, I would bounty you for lawls, because your post makes me think you're the type of person who thinks this will create a killright. Too bad the "bounty from forums" feature doesn't exist. (Also a topic that has been beaten quite a bit)

Also..."no one suicides in 1.0 anyway" is a false statement based on an assumption which you didn't bother to look up. People definitely get ganked in 1.0s.

EDIT: Got the subforum name wrong.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#5 - 2013-02-20 03:49:49 UTC
No, just no, that's an absolutely terrible idea, so bad in fact that you should be forced to biomass. If you want that go and play on the test server when non consensual PvP is restricted.

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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#6 - 2013-02-20 03:51:37 UTC
Molenius Morrowinger wrote:
1.0 - becomes carebear heaven,
0.6 and 0.5 - becomes low sec.

I think the second statement is a great idea. The first, well, others have covered that adequately.

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Molenius Morrowinger
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-02-20 03:54:22 UTC
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
This thread is new and original and certainly doesn't belong in the Ideas and Suggestions forum.

But no, seriously, this thread concept has been beaten to death. No good will come of this thread. If I could login right now, I would bounty you for lawls, because your post makes me think you're the type of person who thinks this will create a killright. Too bad the "bounty from forums" feature doesn't exist. (Also a topic that has been beaten quite a bit)

Also..."no one suicides in 1.0 anyway" is a false statement based on an assumption which you didn't bother to look up. People definitely get ganked in 1.0s.


He he, I'm still quite new to the game and trying to be constructive.
It seems not the general rule in EVE instead it is easier to throw some crap in to other's face.

Thanks for pointing out the right forum though.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#8 - 2013-02-20 03:59:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Lol, don't take it the wrong way, it's just that the general idea gets brought up quite often and it's blasphemy to many of us that have been playing for years.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#9 - 2013-02-20 04:04:57 UTC
EVE has a zone free of all non-consensual PvP already.

It really does.

For those interested.

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Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#10 - 2013-02-20 04:11:50 UTC
Molenius Morrowinger wrote:
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
This thread is new and original and certainly doesn't belong in the Ideas and Suggestions forum.

But no, seriously, this thread concept has been beaten to death. No good will come of this thread. If I could login right now, I would bounty you for lawls, because your post makes me think you're the type of person who thinks this will create a killright. Too bad the "bounty from forums" feature doesn't exist. (Also a topic that has been beaten quite a bit)

Also..."no one suicides in 1.0 anyway" is a false statement based on an assumption which you didn't bother to look up. People definitely get ganked in 1.0s.


He he, I'm still quite new to the game and trying to be constructive.
It seems not the general rule in EVE instead it is easier to throw some crap in to other's face.

Thanks for pointing out the right forum though.


Bitter vet syndrom has clearly taken hold on me. Welcome to the forums. You should probably not bring up miner bumping, AFK cloaking, "Fix Nullsec/High sec," splitting servers into PVP/PVE, How CCP and Goons are in bed together, forum moderation, or the concept of forcing game styles on others to name just a few topics. All will get you trolled. Many will result in crap posting. Some will get locked.

Keep on trucking on, and definitely keep new posting new and original ideas because they may still have merit. Just do a forum search on the topic first.

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Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-02-20 04:21:32 UTC
:frogout:

If only I could put in SA forums similes :sigh:

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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-02-20 04:58:41 UTC
Hey...

Will you look at that. New wartargets.

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Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-02-20 05:08:35 UTC
Molenius Morrowinger wrote:
As subj states if this is fair enough to do some changes which will acomodate both sides:
1.0 - becomes carebear heaven,
0.6 and 0.5 - becomes low sec.

Advantages:
1. High sec population get their pvp free zones (I think nobody suicides in 1.0 anyway),
2. Low sec expanded splitting high-sec in to isles fixing risk / reward issue when you need to take risk to trade between hubs,
3. mining in 1.0 will be depleted soon, meaning more miners need to play MMO style asking others for protecting and ops in mining in low sec,
4. Prices will go high fixing the economy inflation and increasing ship demand due to more losses.

Anything else?



Disadvantages:
1. Eve is no longer hard, or dark, with complete safe zones, ruining the core component of the game
2. People DO suicide gank in 1.0s, just not freighters
3. Low sec is currently terribly broken, with abysmall risk versus reward outside of Faction warfare. This will only further the amount of garbage space
4. This won't change where miners mine. Theres no ice 1.0 systems anyway, nor are there hardly any worth mining in anyway. Miners currently already have a way to be near gank immune (Tanked Skiffs), and choose not to do so, in favour of higher profits.
5. Prices will only go high as a result of the complete and ultimate collapse of trade in eve, which leads to point 6.

6. All highsec trade routes go through at least one 0.5 or 0.6 between trade hubs. It will become impossible, short of jump freightering, to safely move goods between, or eve TO trade hubs. Not to mention some of the current trade hubs will become low sec.

Thus, CCP will be forced to re-do the security status of every region of highsec, effectively to a map of the way it is now, with the only true change being that there will be significantly less high sec systems to drop towers in, and missions will pay out less (due to everything in highsec now being 0.7-1.0).


TL:DR If you think this is even remotely plausible, you haven't the faintest idea how Eve works.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#14 - 2013-02-20 05:23:01 UTC
Molenius Morrowinger wrote:
As subj states if this is fair enough to do some changes which will acomodate both sides:
1.0 - becomes carebear heaven,
0.6 and 0.5 - becomes low sec.

No. Terrible idea.

But if this ever happened, only

1.0 - 0-7: Lvl 1 missions only
1.0 - 0.7: No incursions
1.0 - 0.7: Veldspar only
1.0 - 0.7: No anchoring

would be some sort of trade off.

Do you really want this sort of EVE?

Remove standings and insurance.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#15 - 2013-02-20 08:38:31 UTC
I vote no.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#16 - 2013-02-20 09:01:33 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I vote no.


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yer mammy
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-02-20 09:08:17 UTC
i know you took your time to think this through so thoroughly and you may believe you're on to something grand...























































but no.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#18 - 2013-02-20 09:10:58 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I vote no.


The Veldgod has spoken.

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Tubrug1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-02-20 09:15:58 UTC
Such a stupid idea and a fairly obvious troll. 3/10.

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Dante Uisen
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-02-20 09:25:48 UTC
Molenius Morrowinger wrote:
Low sec expanded splitting high-sec in to isles fixing risk / reward issue when you need to take risk to trade between hubs.


This has been mentioned several times before, and it could probably work if done right, still it's has it's pros and cons.
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