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Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#1 - 2013-02-18 18:52:13 UTC
Hello,
As a new player I'm currently fond of doing solo Agent security missions, Also I'm an amarr ship pilot with skills to fly frigates and destroyers.

Currently I'm running agent 1 missions with this ship: Coercer (click for fit),
was thinking about moving on to agent II missions as agent I missions are dull\easy\small reward\foes 1 shot dies\boring, but my corps' member told me that with my current ship Agent 2 missions are not viable and I should spec either to missiles or drones in order to do that.

In the past I've tried caldari missile ships (kesteral > corax > Caracal) but was utter meh and not fun for me there for I decided to go onto drones path.

tomorow I'll have folowing drone skills:
Drones - IV
Scout drones operation - 2\3
Combat Drones operation - 2\3
Drones durability - 2\3

so from looking at the Dragoon (click for spec) I thought about something of far range (beam small laser turrets X 3) with gang of 4 active drones keeping at range etc...

I'll appreciate if you have any tips on fitting the ship, which drones to use, tactics and such.
also I'm new player with around 250K sp so some skills are on 3 other on 1-2.

Thanks!
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#2 - 2013-02-18 19:28:24 UTC
For level 2 missions, you want a cruiser, preferably the Arbitrator. The Fragoon isn't really made for mission running, with the bonus to a PvP module.

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Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#3 - 2013-02-18 19:42:26 UTC
I got maller in storage which I got as a gift, for L2 security which one will be more fun arbi or the maller?

Also not worth to get dragoon for the agent 1 missions while leveling drone skills for testing and training purposes?
Taoist Dragon
x Never Regret x
#4 - 2013-02-18 20:49:40 UTC
Lvl 2 missions?

Coercer will just eat through them. Crusier is too big and often will have trouble with the amount of frigs in them.

If using a cruiser I'd go arbi (but I have a fetish for the hull) at least your hobgoblin drones will easily hit the frigs but you'll have to be very active in your drone management.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#5 - 2013-02-18 20:53:51 UTC
coercer can eat through agent 2 missions ?!
wtf... good news then!

can u check my fitting (OP) and tell me if it'll work or I need to change anything?

also for dronning should I rock with salvage drones as well?
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-02-18 20:55:22 UTC  |  Edited by: sabre906
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
I got maller in storage which I got as a gift, for L2 security which one will be more fun arbi or the maller?

Also not worth to get dragoon for the agent 1 missions while leveling drone skills for testing and training purposes?


Don't use a cruiser for lvl2s, especially not a gun cruiser. Given the rat size and spawn range, guns won't hit. That Coercer will do fine. If you really want to go the drone route, look into Algos. You already have destroyer skill, and the Gallante frigate prerequisite takes only hours. The drone training you wanted to do will take far longer anyway.

Sell that Maller. It can't do lvl2s, and you'll want BCs for lvl3s.

Small rate salvage is worthless, use dps drones.
Taoist Dragon
x Never Regret x
#7 - 2013-02-18 21:22:06 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
coercer can eat through agent 2 missions ?!
wtf... good news then!

can u check my fitting (OP) and tell me if it'll work or I need to change anything?

also for dronning should I rock with salvage drones as well?


I used a coercer for lvl 2's when i did them don't see it not working still

Something like this fit

[Coercer, LOW SP lvl 2 runner]

Damage Control II
Small 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Prototype Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I

1MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II

Small Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency S

Small Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Small Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Small Semiconductor Memory Cell I

Use T2 where possible or reduce the meta lvl to suit budget. but this will kill most lvl 2 mission frigs in 1-2 vollys so the repper should only need to be pulsed now and then.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#8 - 2013-02-19 01:26:44 UTC
ok know what,
humor me....

Let's say I got drone skill to rank 5 and all other relevant (for scout drones\salvage drones) are rank 3.
how would you fit the draoon for pve missions?
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-02-19 01:43:50 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
ok know what,
humor me....

Let's say I got drone skill to rank 5 and all other relevant (for scout drones\salvage drones) are rank 3.
how would you fit the draoon for pve missions?


It's got 3 guns, and with your drone skill, 3 drones...

If you want drone destroyer, get an Algos. Meanwhile, use Coercer.
Taoist Dragon
x Never Regret x
#10 - 2013-02-19 01:46:01 UTC
Lvl 2's

probably something like this.

[Dragoon, Lvl 2 runner]

Small Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

1MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II

Small Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency S
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Inferno Rocket
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Inferno Rocket
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Inferno Rocket

Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I

Hobgoblin II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Max damage output. but you'd have to be very active in your drone management. But you do have 3 full flights of them. Use lasers and rockets if anything actually gets close to you.....

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Lashenadeeka
Qinglong Fleet
Jade Kirin Alliance
#11 - 2013-02-19 01:47:19 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
ok know what,
humor me....

Let's say I got drone skill to rank 5 and all other relevant (for scout drones\salvage drones) are rank 3.
how would you fit the draoon for pve missions?


I would trash it and buy a Coercer.
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#12 - 2013-02-19 01:50:24 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Lvl 2's



[Dragoon, Lvl 2 runner]


'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Inferno Rocket
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Inferno Rocket
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Inferno Rocket



I'm invested heavily into gunnery and now into drones as well, so I'm not planning to go into missiles in the near future, any high slot modules other then missiles which will benefit your fitting idea?
Taoist Dragon
x Never Regret x
#13 - 2013-02-19 02:23:59 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Lvl 2's



[Dragoon, Lvl 2 runner]


'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Inferno Rocket
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Inferno Rocket
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Inferno Rocket



I'm invested heavily into gunnery and now into drones as well, so I'm not planning to go into missiles in the near future, any high slot modules other then missiles which will benefit your fitting idea?


Can probably put a couple of small NOS on there to help if you are fighting blood raiders maybe vOv


It's been bloody ages since I ran missions

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#14 - 2013-02-19 02:38:36 UTC
tyvm for all the help!!!

you have been most helpful.
Deathan Taxxis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-02-19 10:56:20 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Lvl 2's



[Dragoon, Lvl 2 runner]


'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Inferno Rocket
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Inferno Rocket
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Inferno Rocket



I'm invested heavily into gunnery and now into drones as well, so I'm not planning to go into missiles in the near future, any high slot modules other then missiles which will benefit your fitting idea?


Honestly not being rude here but, with 250k SP, you're not invested that heavily into anything at this point. And there really is no need to focus too heavily in any one direction just yet.

Basically what I'm saying is, 'Don't discount a fit because it will take a day of training'.
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#16 - 2013-02-19 13:57:22 UTC
not exactly,
I had a caldari missile boat warrior as my first character and I got him into a caracal before I deleted him as I didn't like the gameplay (was on trial).

when I say I'm invested into gunnery I mean I'm invested into gunnery support skills which takes few days to train, will be much easier for me to rain let's say "Hybrid Turret" as it's only 1 extra skill, for missiles I'll need tons of new skills with their own requirement which will take about a week or so to train for a skill which I won't use as I'm focused on amarr ships.

that's my 2 isk.