Live Events Discussion

My 2 pennies.


I wasn't at the event unfortunately, still not in the habit of checking your twitter feed, and being -10 makes any high sec events more difficult without an alt anyways.


However : I agree with your sentiments that not everything has to be about killing people!

#2 I don't have an issue with the "QA Shield Extenders" idea. The reason is simple, you are trying to push a storyline forward, and if you keep getting cut off by the "massive" element of the MMORPG, then it's going to be tough to tell your story. As we know, the 'real' events and players of EVE are bigger than most of the lore you could write down. But that lore is very valuable for theme and setting and for those that care about the universe. In some ways, you need to "buffer" the way interaction happens to the "lore" from the "massive" element.

At the same time, maybe the players should have been able to "save" the day and put the effort out to do that, to save their Tribal Elders but on some level, it's impossible to be sure on how you can accomplish that. It becomes a bit unrealistic to stop 40 Tornados from blapping an NPC Tempest. In a way, the game mechanics don't make it plausible to always succeed.


The "roleplay" events would have to allow certain things that the game mechanics don't really permit for such a "high security" event. Scripts and other game mechanics would be needed specifically for roleplaying. So, let's say, 40 nados aren't able to get into engagement range of a NPC ship without it insta-emergency warping the hell way. Because there is no way that a single ship would see 40 nados landing "on grid" is a friendly action, just like a player would warp out if he saw that land on his grid.


I would like you to push the agenda of "not every event is for killing". I think there is a lot you can say and do there. The format of an "open" event becomes a challenge for quality RP interaction anyways. You should really focus on story. That doesn't mean it needs to always be scripted, but it should have a defined "start and end". You really need to (and i'm sure you do) say, what kind of player interaction do we want here at this juncture. How can the players succeed and fail? What will we permit the players to interact with to push the story in a productive way, and not just nuke and decimate everything. And which format is actually the most productive way to accomplish that?

If that means making some ships invulnerable, that's fine by me. "You chose the wrong interaction path for this storyline, try another." should be the message.

So what you're saying is this:

"The minmatar got god moded, now everyone else will get shafted."

Well done CCP Falcon and events crew. Once again the minis get a "great" event with no tangible way to influence it and without any negative consequences.

This reminds me so much of the Empyrean Age debacle it makes me sick.

The minmatar still have not been held accountable for attacking CONCORD, especially the thukkers should have been wiped out by DED the second they had reestablished their control systems...

But no, obviously having blue facepaint and shouting "FREEEEDOOOOM" from the top of your lungs somehow entitles one small portion of the player base to enjoy the game, while the vast majority of your paying customers has to sit on the sideline stuck with a spychic-zombie-empress, a mustache twirling pseudo-hitler and Professor X as president.

Well done CCP, well done...

They'll get theirs, trust me.

Nope, I just plan.

Got done with this Live Event at 23:30 last night, ran 4 hours of DUST matches for a Live Event from 04:00-08:00, and I'm still awake now.

I love this stuff, and can never get enough of it. Combine it with my need for very little sleep (I generally sleep 2-3 hours on average per night) and I'm in a position where I can work and enjoy what I do.

Yaay for loving your job.

On a side note, I know it sucked to get all the negative feedback for this. But, I do thank you for taking the time to listen to the players and incorporating our feed back. Hopefully, going forward, we'll see more agency in Eve RP and live events that lead to a more vibrant world.

The thing is, it didn't suck at all.

While the trolling isn't appreciated, it's simply ignored. Thick skin helps.

In the same respect we're still in the process of learning how to make these events more and more accessible and open to players. This means that constructive criticism is always welcome, so long as it has basis, is well put together and is coherent without baiting us into a flame war. People who do the latter will simply be ignored.

Since I took the helm of organizing events it's been a learning experience, and it's always best to learn in the field. Practice makes perfect. It's clear that last night some people were unhappy with how things unfolded. It's an experience we'll learn from and move forward from.

Considering I used to be a long-time Amarr RPer before I got hired, I can sympathize with you to some degree. However, we do not keep score for the storyline. We're moving forward with our storyline in a method that makes sense for us from a narrative perspective. Looking at one single event at the very beginning of what's going to be three-four months of story is akin to seeing the part where Luke's parents die and turning off the movie and assuming everything comes up Dark Side.

As Falcon said, the Minmatar will have their hard spots, while the Amarr will have their moments to shine. In the end, we simply can't write toward making every loyalist group happy constantly, because then we'd end up with no one ever losing. We're trying to tell a good story and there will be some bumps along the road both IC and OOC.

Edit: Ffffffffffffffff CCP Gargant just brought up what would have been a great idea for a way to spin things had we been vulnerable and actually been suicide ganked. Dammit, now I'm mad we didn't let it happen.

Come on! You can't just say you now have a great idea and not tell us!

You're mean. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what you guys pull out of the hat.

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