EVE General Discussion

If you export the market data as xml using the in-game market feature to do so, and use it to generate spreadsheets are you then breaking the "facilitate acquisition of currency at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play"?

Everyone doing any kind of serious trading are using third-party software, to increase performance. Some use script and programs to generate date rich cache files for parsing, other use spreadsheets to calculate profits etc.

Rofl. I guess me and about 3/4ths of eve will get banned soon then. Including you, since you already admitted you used evemon to scrap cache files. Being ignorant of the law doesn't mean your not liable, so don't say "I'm innocent because i didn't know."

Also the economy of eve would go crazy (in a bad way, most likely) if eve-central and the bajillion tools/programs that pull data from it and the cache stopped working without a way to replicate their effects.

With all due respect to CCP Seegs, CCP Sreegs' opinion doesn't match the majority of CCP employee's opinions about the cache, so stop going crazy please.

YES for the love of all that is HOLLY lets make this about goofswarm or testikal. Come on people you are ignoring the attention whores. Please shift the convo to where it needs to be.

Perhaps you could try reading the rest of the thread?

The EULA can be changed by CCP at any time and they can ask you to accept it again at which point you can decide to biomass or, well, accept it. Stop arguing. There is nothing to win here. CCP Sreegs has got the last word and we get to respect it.

Do you seriously have a problem with this? If so then you should biomass now.

Eve is a sandbox game, but there have to be lines drawn in the sand. Otherwise, it would just be a sea of ambiguity. The EULA is MORE THAN CLEAR on the subject. At first I was pretty perturbed at CCP's alleged actions. At this point, however, it's quite obvious that they only did what had to be done. Instead of being disgusted with CCP as I was formerly, that disgust has now transposed to E-UNI for such a monstrous effort to create stigma in a game we should all hope only grows.

Are you really telling me that people read this and didn't realize that the guy was running a market bot?

The second one in particular is NOT a poorly written explination of what "john" was doing.

If you think you're updating 30 orders a minute by hand, you're a delusional **** or lying. It takes longer then 2 seconds to update a single order.

I spend 20 minutes just updating a handful of my 200+ orders. It takes 10 minutes just to scroll through my entire list without making any adjustments.



Guy bots.
Gets caught.

Strike one.

Botter knows he's being watched now.
Is pissed.
Quits.

What a shocker, I've NEVER seen this ever happen before. He quit in this fashion because he's a ******* botter.
It took blizzard almost a year to catch my boy running 4 bots. He'd run dungeons with his main, while the other 4 were automated. Blizzard temp banned the 4, and sent an email to the account for the one that wasn't botting, warning that this was his first warning.

He didn't ***** about it, he laughed, gave his absurd amount of gold to a friends guild, and quit.

The run of the mill botter, the guy who's doing it just because they enjoy it and aren't RMTing anything, rarely stick around once they've been caught. They will either do it till they are permenantly banned or quit.

Believe it or not, there are guys out there that only enjoy playing a game when they can cheat it. "John" was a poor sport.

Either he, or an EVE-uni friend, possibly both, are trying to use the corporation to give "john" some credibility. There's nothing worse then a cheater that cries when they lose the game.

Hey guys, I'm posting in a Eve-Uni whine thread where half of the posters know absolutely **** about computer security or internet law.

I love how most people ignore the fact that Eve University was involved in a money laundering scheme and yet someone needs to watch those watchers!

Hold on guys, I'm going to go make a bunch of isk and suddenly quit the game! Be right back!

The fun thing is that he's getting all incensed and then HE breached the EULA (assuming CCP Screegs words would be enforced) while I have never enabled EvE Mon cache scraping. Actually I am not using EvE Mon since months.

**** happens. And I am not incensed, but amazed how you jump all over the place. I am staying calm and observant and try to do right by CCP. You should give it a try.