EVE General Discussion

It would be a lot more fun if the bumper were to turn properly Red. Why, the way it is now it smells like an exploit since there just isn't much you can do about it without Concord intervention in the other pilot's favor.




"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon

That would result in either:
1) Concord Ganking Freighters in Jita or
2) Ganking frieghters around Jita with no Concord intervention.

Simply park a Freighter in front of the undock or at the warp-in to a gate, and watch people go flashy as they bump you.

Alternatively, take a Stabber and bump a large group of Mackinaws into each other and watch as they all bump each other and go flashy.


tl;dr No. This is not a new idea. This idea is just as idiotic now as it was every other time it was presented.

The best part of this would be when they went red and the miner attacked them with their drones, and started an LE with the bumper, who would probably actually fit guns if this is how it would work.

A more likely scenario is that, even if the bumper went red, the miner would do nothing because that's all they want to do in EVE anyway.

I don't care if people try to bump me. I just orbit the rock I am mining to make it that much more difficult. :)

It's just a bunch of Goon alt's with nothing to do in Nap Sec, and who somehow think its "Wheeee....bump she goes" is important in life.

Who the heck do you think was buying shares in Jim Boy Free Fifteens little scam?

Yep, those poor Goon's who cry about how rich high sec is.

Yo CCP..... I didn't sign up for GoonSwarm online.

Seems like a... minor issue.

Sounds like good clean fun. Let it be so!


Comedy ensues! And profit!



Dramiel in the corner pocket...

Based on the lore about ship shields and collisions, we would expect collisions to be roughly elastic, meaning the resulting velocities of the involved ships would be related to their respective kinetic energies going into the collision.

A good bump stabber can go 19,000m/s at a mass of 60 million kg, for a kinetic energy of about 21 trillion megajoules.
A bump Machariel can go 5,100m/s at a mass of 144 million kg, for a kinetic energy of about 3.7 trillion megajoules.
A Charon gets about 94m/s at a mass of 960 million kg, for a kinetic energy of about 8.5 billion megajoules.
An Avatar with MWD goes about 93m/s at a mass of 2.4 billion kg, for a kinetic energy of about 25 billion megajoules (rough approx based on being about 3 times the mass of the Charon and moving at the same speed).

So, you're looking at objects that are about 3 orders of magnitude more energetic than the thing they're bumping. Feel free to do the math about what would happen in RL physics between those ships, but the slow heavy object gets bumped.


Now, as it happens, EVE's physics engine doesn't put quite that much emphasis on speed (which is to the advantage of the heavier object)(look up an old devblog on Desync issues if you're interested in some indirect information), but it still does tend to favor the faster moving object.

The constant complaining about this game is getting annoying. Don't like getting bumped? Tough, it really doesn't do much to hamper you. Don't like getting suicide ganked? Take those mining upgrades off and fit a tank. Not losing must income because mining doesn't make that much isk anyways. Don't want to do that? Quit. Simple as that.

Not sure if srs~