Live Events Discussion

This is actually probably the most complicated thing about RPing, to be honest. There are always discussions about what is considered IC knowledge and what is not. This gets especially complicated when new world-shaping events take place, ESPECIALLY in novels.

It's probably safe to say that you have absolutely no knowledge of the events of Sirens, for instance, beyond some things like "There were anti-provist events that got attacked by SOMEONE", and MAYBE you could reason out that it was Dust Mercs, and those dust Mercs then got fired on by CPD fleets, but you aren't going to know why.

Two different matters appear here. On one hand, let's deal with knowledge first. When you read anything EVE related, the main question would be "would my character know?". This has three possible answers, depending on the source:

-Novels and chronicles depicting common things, like the fedo, would be known. They are things many pilots would experience, like knowing who is Aura's voice, or the general history on any faction. So, if you can reasonably say I have met that, it would be knowledge you could use.

-News items on the Scope would be known to all, as they're public.

-Chronicles and novels with a story, dialogues and such would be a no-no. You weren't there, you couldn't hear about Heth's health problems/issues.

This would be the general rule, IMO. It can get murky on two special points:

-General knowledge tossed inside chronicles with story. In some cases, chronicles would include elements that a character could know. These can be due to the fact that inside the dialogue or description something commonplace is mentioned, like a quote from the Scriptures or a common tradition. Or it can be because it mentions something so big and widespread that it would be common knowledge, for example the mention in the last chronicles to several anti provist movements, even if the news only mentioned one rally.

-Second, via live events, some things that happen inside a chronicle may be known to some characters even if they are not general knowledge. For example, during the Speaker of Truths chronicle, the Speaker mentions that he's been guarded in space by pod pilots preventing him from being taken down by Articio's men; old-Sepherim was one of those pod pilots, so though he wouldn't be able to use ICly any dialogue from that chronicle, he can use ICly that he knew such a meeting took place, when and so on.

Now that we have stablished a "rule of thumb" of what each may know, the second aspect is "what can be done with it?". Well, the answer to this is relatively easy, if you know it you can use it, if not you have to act as if nothing you knew nothing. It's nice to know why the Caldari Navy was bombing their planets, but I can't enter IGS and mention that I have secret info regarding that. That would be one bad case of god-modding, something no one likes and is in the big list of "no-no".

What happens when somebody does it still? Then, how to react would depend on each character. Some may think the other man is a mad men, or maybe a paranoid,or a conspiracy theorist. Others would give him some credit, others take action, etc. But all reactions would have to be based on "not knowing that it is actually true", what your char would react in case the other had said it if there was no chronicle about it.

At least, that's how I see it.

Im a billionaire pod pilot, with the power to destroy at a whim... you think i dont have access to classified information channels or spy uplinks?
Even the newest, poorest egg plant has access to agents is one sector of space or another...

Information gathering RP style is easy...

I always figured that the stuff in novels and chronicles was "rumour and hear-say," that just got leaked one way or another - either through some bored capsuleer hacking secure networks, bribing someone who was within earshot, or overhearing a drunken conversation at a bar later. Obviously that doesn't work for everything, but for things like Jamyl Sarum's little possession problem, having the whole cluster know the rumour that "Sarum is nutty as a bat" probably isn't too far out of the realm of possibility.

And as for alts working together, my justification is my main genetically tailored custom clones to be loyal to a fault. That and I'm paying them. People will do anything you want so long as you pay them.

I ran a spy organization for three years in EVE, and asuming you have access to classified information just because you're a capsuleer is similair to saying you have access to such intel for being a over-paid trucker, or a soccer player. Not realistic.

Its RP, you know a guy who knows a guy that owes you a favor. And an intergalactic immortal is somewhat different to a pansy that kicks a ball around lol isk =/= planetary $$$.
If you ran a spy network its not a huge leap in imagination to think you could have agents in the caldari state government...



Of course there is... umm ... this is the Caldari ... theres going to be surveillance everywhere... so that means there will be spys or computer hacks in that surveillance that could get you the information.

No, it's not a great leap, but it still is god-modding because you are using information you shouldn't have ICly but have no way to reach. You could have a spy in the Caldari State, sure, and several inside the Federation, etc. but they wouldn't be able to defend themselves because you are asuming your spy can/will report on anything they see, and they can't get caught because they don't really exist.

I believe that, if you really want to have a spy, you should start working together with the Live Events NPCs to start corrupting them and getting them to talk. That would be the fair approach.