These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

It's All About Trust

First post
Author
Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#281 - 2013-02-07 01:04:26 UTC
Shawnm339 wrote:


I'd say the figure of sociopaths in eve is much higher? Why you ask? Because we normal hard working people understand that THIS IS A GAME, where we can be anyone we like..had a bad day at work? I can come on here and join a fleet and go and fly my anger out on some other poor unsuspecting souls...others decide to scam because maybe in real life they are genuine nice guys who work hard and want to play a different role....most of us accept that the people we talk to on here in some aspect may not quite be who's they be in RL in fact we might not even like them but in EVE...I'd suggest you're taking this spaceship game way too seriously


I've worked with, and gotten to know a lot of people over the years. Thieves, murderers, pimps, drug dealers, wife beaters, child molesters . . . you get the idea.

After three years in Eve, though, I have to admit that I have never seen so many dedicated sociopaths in one place before.
Kaethe Kollwitz
#282 - 2013-02-07 01:05:27 UTC
hi,

I decided to just remove trust from the game entirely: dont let people into your corp, dont let people into your alliance - form a loose coalition using in game chat channels instead.

read more here

[URL=http://runners-alliance.weebly.com/index.html]1. THIS IS NOT AN ALLIANCE!![/URL]  - [URL=https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=202586&find=unread]2. FREE PRIZE GIVEAWAY[/URL]

Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#283 - 2013-02-07 01:11:45 UTC
Provence Tristram wrote:


  • Would you be underhanded while playing sports?
  • Would you cheat in a FPS?
  • Would you hack a different MMO?
  • Would you be callous while playing a board game?

Those are all game scenarios -- 'it's just a game' applies to them all.



1. I never have been, and never will be. It's a sport. Not even a game.
2. I don't do FPS because it all sux.
3. No.
4. Board games are very personal. you interact with the other players. If you don't like them, why play with them?
Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#284 - 2013-02-07 01:14:57 UTC
Malcanis wrote:

On the other hand, EVE is explicitly and openly advertised as a game where spying, treachery, piracy, theft and violent coercian are not just allowed but normal gameplay.


As stated above, a diligent search didn't show anything like that. Linky?
Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#285 - 2013-02-07 01:23:52 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
You lose not even a bill and turtle hard?

really? REALLY?

I guess it kinda depends how much fun you were having with other people although you post reads more like "I started a low tax corp so I could get tax of mission runners."

rather than, I started a corp to achieve something.


Achieve what in this cesspool? Run the galaxy? Move on to running the universe? I started a missioning corp because my miners are too expensive to use as pinatas.
Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#286 - 2013-02-07 01:29:59 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:

I did read the thread, saw the failfit CNR, and it proved you do not know how to play EVE. The other posted fit(which some people are mistaking and thinking was your fit, sadly) is, as explained, a joke from a long time ago.

I've been playing since 2006, but how long anyone has been playing EVE has no relevance on whether they actually know how to play, which is why I didn't bother asking how long you have been playing, or mention how long I had til now.

You might want to read the whole thread while not in possession of a giant case of mad.


If you think that a CNR, fitted with CN Cruise Launchers, and CN BCSes is a fail fit, then fly safe, good luck, and leave the thread.
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#287 - 2013-02-07 01:30:43 UTC
have you tried idk not mining and running missions
Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#288 - 2013-02-07 01:33:10 UTC
Sverige Pahis wrote:
have you tried idk not mining and running missions


That would make me a little more like you, wouldn't it? That is not a direction I am willing to go.
Azazel Zorin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#289 - 2013-02-07 01:56:31 UTC
I think the real world is far worse than EVE. Bankers, corporations, media, politicians...cant trust anyone of them.Pirate
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#290 - 2013-02-07 01:57:59 UTC
Not Politically Correct wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:

I did read the thread, saw the failfit CNR, and it proved you do not know how to play EVE. The other posted fit(which some people are mistaking and thinking was your fit, sadly) is, as explained, a joke from a long time ago.

I've been playing since 2006, but how long anyone has been playing EVE has no relevance on whether they actually know how to play, which is why I didn't bother asking how long you have been playing, or mention how long I had til now.

You might want to read the whole thread while not in possession of a giant case of mad.


If you think that a CNR, fitted with CN Cruise Launchers, and CN BCSes is a fail fit, then fly safe, good luck, and leave the thread.

Lol

And this is why you are failing at EVE Blink

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.

Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#291 - 2013-02-07 02:06:34 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Not Politically Correct wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:

I did read the thread, saw the failfit CNR, and it proved you do not know how to play EVE. The other posted fit(which some people are mistaking and thinking was your fit, sadly) is, as explained, a joke from a long time ago.

I've been playing since 2006, but how long anyone has been playing EVE has no relevance on whether they actually know how to play, which is why I didn't bother asking how long you have been playing, or mention how long I had til now.

You might want to read the whole thread while not in possession of a giant case of mad.


If you think that a CNR, fitted with CN Cruise Launchers, and CN BCSes is a fail fit, then fly safe, good luck, and leave the thread.

Lol

And this is why you are failing at EVE Blink


I've been playing for more than 3 years. I have good, steady ISK coming in. I don't see 'fail' anywhere in that.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#292 - 2013-02-07 02:14:44 UTC
Not Politically Correct wrote:

I've been playing for more than 3 years. I have good, steady ISK coming in. I don't see 'fail' anywhere in that.

You obviously don't see it, or this thread would not exist.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.

Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#293 - 2013-02-07 02:26:43 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Not Politically Correct wrote:

I've been playing for more than 3 years. I have good, steady ISK coming in. I don't see 'fail' anywhere in that.

You obviously don't see it, or this thread would not exist.


I'm pretty sure that you are the one who doesn't understand why this thread exists. Smile
Beki 250
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#294 - 2013-02-27 00:56:21 UTC
Two days ago, I was looking through corp recruiting ads, and saw one that looked plausible. They invited me into voice chat, and I thought it was reasonable to join.

Today, my main corp, which I mentioned in voice chat, received a convo request from someone who turned out to be an extortionist.

Oddly enough, the people I had been voice chatting with said they received an extortion note from the same corp, same character today. Naturally, they thought it was because of me. After I gave the corp name, and character name, of the griefer, their suspicions were allayed.

Mine weren't.

If you can't trust anyone, why join a corp? 11% tax is a bad thing, but better than losing an expensive ship.

Yes. I can afford another one one, but why should I?
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#295 - 2013-02-27 01:09:19 UTC
Trusting someone in EVE is like finding a stranger on the internet and letting them have access to all of your stuff.

Actually, it's exactly like that.

I don't think closing the corp is the way to go about this. You've mentioned that you've made a lot of money and have lost expensive ships before. I'm sure you could handle your most recent loss.

All you need to do is have a longer and stricter recruitment process. Do extensive background checks on every little detail of the corps they were in, and the character if possible (google is your best friend). Don't let them in on day one, anyone serious about really joining your corp will be willing to wait several days, even several weeks to join. Just make it so that getting in is hard but not impossible.

Heck, you can even create a smaller corp just to hold the recruits for a bigger corp, that way they can't do anything major against you.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#296 - 2013-02-27 01:20:32 UTC
Highsec corps make awoxing hilariously easy & fun. Over the weekend I joined 3 seperate highsec corps in the space of 2 hours & awoxed a whole bunch of mission runners.

This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.

Beki 250
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#297 - 2013-02-27 01:21:37 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Trusting someone in EVE is like finding a stranger on the internet and letting them have access to all of your stuff.

Actually, it's exactly like that.

I don't think closing the corp is the way to go about this. You've mentioned that you've made a lot of money and have lost expensive ships before. I'm sure you could handle your most recent loss.

All you need to do is have a longer and stricter recruitment process. Do extensive background checks on every little detail of the corps they were in, and the character if possible (google is your best friend). Don't let them in on day one, anyone serious about really joining your corp will be willing to wait several days, even several weeks to join. Just make it so that getting in is hard but not impossible.

Heck, you can even create a smaller corp just to hold the recruits for a bigger corp, that way they can't do anything major against you.


The corp didn't close. It just . . . reformed. :)
Arox Dax
Empire of Decadence
Empire of Decadence.
#298 - 2013-02-27 02:50:44 UTC
Really??

15 pages about some alleged missioner who got awoxed, got mad, kicked corpmates and whined on forums.

Well trolled my friend, well trolled o7
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#299 - 2013-02-27 03:20:56 UTC
Arox Dax wrote:
Really??

15 pages about some alleged missioner who got awoxed, got mad, kicked corpmates and whined on forums.

Well trolled my friend, well trolled o7

Two things happen on the Internet (and by extension, Eve):

1. People do bad things to other people. The reasons behind the bad things don't matter. They just happen because , when you get right down to it, people are basically douches when no one else is watching.

2. People like to whine and cry about those bad things. Even people that have been using the internet for decades and should have known better.
mentalkiller
Celestial Eyes
#300 - 2013-02-27 03:36:23 UTC
Sorry you are Not Politically Correct

/mentalKiller