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It's All About Trust

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#301 - 2013-02-27 03:59:32 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Posted: 2013.02.27 01:20
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Highsec corps make awoxing hilariously easy & fun. Over the weekend I joined 3 seperate highsec corps in the space of 2 hours & awoxed a whole bunch of mission runners.

Really?

According to your employment record :

GoonWaffe [GEWNS] from 2012.09.21 12:37 to this day.

I know, the discrepancy must be due to TiDi.


DMC
Ai Shun
#302 - 2013-02-27 04:09:26 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:

Really?

According to your employment record :

GoonWaffe [GEWNS] from 2012.09.21 12:37 to this day.

I know, the discrepancy must be due to TiDi.


Those little pictures to the left of a post aren't really people, you know. They are characters in a video game. A person can have multiple of those characters by having multiple characters on one account (Maximum of 3) or multiple accounts.

Not sure you understood that, but thought I'd clarify just in case.
Beki 250
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#303 - 2013-02-28 02:28:32 UTC
mentalkiller wrote:
Sorry you are Not Politically Correct


Sorry, that account has been shut down. I spend a lot of time, ISK and effort on building my characters. I just don't feel like hanging them out, like pinatas, for sociopath's entertainment.
Beki 250
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#304 - 2013-02-28 02:31:24 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:


Those little pictures to the left of a post aren't really people, you know. They are characters in a video game. A person can have multiple of those characters by having multiple characters on one account (Maximum of 3) or multiple accounts.

Not sure you understood that, but thought I'd clarify just in case.


To put it a little more forcefully: Character age and player experience are not related.
Oxalis Stricta
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#305 - 2013-02-28 07:27:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Oxalis Stricta
Not Politically Correct wrote:

If you think that a CNR, fitted with CN Cruise Launchers, and CN BCSes is a fail fit, then fly safe, good luck, and leave the thread.


Not Politically Correct wrote:

Rigs:
2X Large Field Purger 1s.
1x ( some type of Calefacation module.)

Highs:
7X Caldari Navy Cruise launchers
1X Large Regard Energy Transfer

Mids:
1 X 100MN T2 afterburner
3 X Large T2 Shield Extenders
1 X T2 Mission specific shield Hardener.
1 X SEBO II with Tracking Range Script

Lows:
3 X Power Diagnostic IIS
2 X Caldari Navy BCSs


Here's why your fit fails. Let's assume you are cap-chaining with logi, as you stated. Your fit deals 527 DPS without drones and has 85.4k eHP uniform with adaptive invulns. Passive tanks 109hp/s

Here's a better fit. Cap stable with logi chaining, deals 604 DPS without drones, has more eHP and better resists to take advantage of your logi. Even comes with the unnecessary sebo. 98k eHP, 250 hp/s tank.
Quote:

[Raven Navy Issue, Spider CNI]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
100MN Afterburner II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Large 'Regard' Power Projector

Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I



In fact, that's not even a very good fit. Here's a better one. 96k eHP, 640 DPS and 350 hp/s tank without implants, and all for 530m.
Quote:

[Raven Navy Issue, BestRaven]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Better DPS, better tank, and you don't need the mobility in a mission CNR anyways. Now tell me about your competent fitting skills
Bexar Ying
Unit 479
#306 - 2013-03-20 03:05:46 UTC
Damage control? For what? I'm shield tanked. You got this off of BCL didn't you? More fool you.

What you see on BCL is very shiney, and pretty much useless, except for impressing noobs.
Jay Kreutzer
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#307 - 2013-03-20 03:33:58 UTC
Bexar Ying wrote:
Damage control? For what? I'm shield tanked. You got this off of BCL didn't you? More fool you.

What you see on BCL is very shiney, and pretty much useless, except for impressing noobs.


yet another BCS isn't going to add that much dps, the shield resist from a DCU doesn't suffer diminishing returns. What else are you going to put in a low slot that's going to give anything comparable to that?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#308 - 2013-03-20 07:30:04 UTC
Jay Kreutzer wrote:
Bexar Ying wrote:
Damage control? For what? I'm shield tanked. You got this off of BCL didn't you? More fool you.

What you see on BCL is very shiney, and pretty much useless, except for impressing noobs.


yet another BCS isn't going to add that much dps, the shield resist from a DCU doesn't suffer diminishing returns. What else are you going to put in a low slot that's going to give anything comparable to that?


A Drone Damage Amp.

That 23% damage boost makes even unbonused hobgob IIs notably more effective at clearing out the small stuff.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Angelic Resolution
The Arcanum
#309 - 2013-03-20 07:52:03 UTC
Not Politically Correct wrote:
I've been playing since July of 2009. Had my ups and downs. Made a lot of ISK mining, lost a corp to an infiltrator, lost some expensive ships, blah, blah, blah.

Then I decided to start a mission running corp, and it was expanding nicely. 2.5% tax rate, Level 4 missions 18 hours a day even for people only 2 weeks old. It was a lot of fun helping them. Life was good.

Today I got an application from a 2007 player. +5.0 standing with Concord, no bounty, seemed like a nice guy, but there was a problem. He had been in both Goonswarm and Goonwaffe in 2010. So I asked him about that before accepting the application. He said that was a thing of the past, he had grown out of that phase.

Do you see where I am going now?

I accepted him and asked him along on a Level 4. He killed my CNR right outside of my home station. 994 million ISK down the tubes.

It was obviously my fault, as much for the things I did as the things I didn't do. But what's the result?

All the members of the corp are now in stasis and will be kicked as soon as they come out. Applications will be disabled permanently. I'm not going to quit the game, because I like it, but I would much rather fly solo, and auto-reject, than get another surprise like that.

'Nough said.



Bl dude, if it was real life with a real army, he'd have been shot and never been able to do it again. This is eve, live and learn. Don't forsaken everyone though because of one person being an utter tunnel ****. State his name in Crimes and Punishment, show the kill mail and you might just do someone else a favor before they let him join.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#310 - 2013-03-20 07:53:56 UTC
Angelic Resolution wrote:
Not Politically Correct wrote:
I've been playing since July of 2009. Had my ups and downs. Made a lot of ISK mining, lost a corp to an infiltrator, lost some expensive ships, blah, blah, blah.

Then I decided to start a mission running corp, and it was expanding nicely. 2.5% tax rate, Level 4 missions 18 hours a day even for people only 2 weeks old. It was a lot of fun helping them. Life was good.

Today I got an application from a 2007 player. +5.0 standing with Concord, no bounty, seemed like a nice guy, but there was a problem. He had been in both Goonswarm and Goonwaffe in 2010. So I asked him about that before accepting the application. He said that was a thing of the past, he had grown out of that phase.

Do you see where I am going now?

I accepted him and asked him along on a Level 4. He killed my CNR right outside of my home station. 994 million ISK down the tubes.

It was obviously my fault, as much for the things I did as the things I didn't do. But what's the result?

All the members of the corp are now in stasis and will be kicked as soon as they come out. Applications will be disabled permanently. I'm not going to quit the game, because I like it, but I would much rather fly solo, and auto-reject, than get another surprise like that.

'Nough said.



Bl dude, if it was real life with a real army, he'd have been shot and never been able to do it again..


Of course, if it was real life, then the OP would have been killed first and wouldn't be complaining about it here.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#311 - 2013-03-20 08:29:06 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:

Really?

According to your employment record :

GoonWaffe [GEWNS] from 2012.09.21 12:37 to this day.

I know, the discrepancy must be due to TiDi.


Those little pictures to the left of a post aren't really people, you know. They are characters in a video game. A person can have multiple of those characters by having multiple characters on one account (Maximum of 3) or multiple accounts.

Not sure you understood that, but thought I'd clarify just in case.

I understand just fine. That player never said his alt character did it and besides that, without proof his statement is nothing more than bullsh*t, much like most of your statements. Anyway, thanks for clarifying that your subtle troll is still obvious as hell.


DMC
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#312 - 2013-03-20 08:40:50 UTC
Beki 250 wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:


Those little pictures to the left of a post aren't really people, you know. They are characters in a video game. A person can have multiple of those characters by having multiple characters on one account (Maximum of 3) or multiple accounts.

Not sure you understood that, but thought I'd clarify just in case.


To put it a little more forcefully: Character age and player experience are not related.


Seems there's a lot of 'glancing' at various posted replies in this thread instead of actually 'reading' them.

DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Posted: 2013.02.27 01:20
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Highsec corps make awoxing hilariously easy & fun. Over the weekend I joined 3 seperate highsec corps in the space of 2 hours & awoxed a whole bunch of mission runners.

Really?

According to your employment record :

GoonWaffe [GEWNS] from 2012.09.21 12:37 to this day.

I know, the discrepancy must be due to TiDi.


DMC


Nowhere in his statement did he say = "My alt character"..........