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Caldari Leviathon in gallente space
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Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#1 - 2013-02-05 05:19:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Piugattuk
Must have been some mechanics changes to it, I warped in started to look around and navy ships locked and killed my stinkin ship, just in case you think about going just wanted to let you know cause I never seen a patch note on it but I wasn't looking either. Big smile

BTW, I have excellent standing with Caldari and navy too.What?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-02-05 05:21:15 UTC
You must have terrible standings with the Caldari.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#3 - 2013-02-05 06:11:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Piugattuk
This has been discussed before but if they were to make the Leviathan destructible same as player ship then people can form fleets to try and bring it down it would get players used to a large fleet battle and maybe thirst for more sending some to null for more, I know the "pretty lights" was something that I liked seeing and got my interest.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#4 - 2013-02-05 06:25:48 UTC
That titan will never die becasue PL cant light cynos is highsec.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#5 - 2013-02-05 06:31:21 UTC
True enough but if enough battleships and large enough fleet however I can't say with any authority cause I've never done any fleet battles to see the process.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#6 - 2013-02-05 06:57:49 UTC
I remember back when I started playing that the Caldari Titan in Luminare was a "big deal" the Gallente militia kept tying to kill it. They always failed due to the massive rat escalations.

How did you Veterans start?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2013-02-05 07:14:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
You must have terrible standings with the Caldari.

Tested with an alt that has no standing with the Caldari, or anyone else for that matter, and was attacked.

Guess you need positive standing.


EDIT: Went myself, 8.48 Caldari standing, and they are all red to me. They were too busy shooting at somebody else to pay me any attention though.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-02-05 07:23:50 UTC
Resistance and hitpoint figures for the LEVIATHAN (you spelled it wrong) are available with a quick google search. It is impossible to kill, short of having a fleet with dps well into the millions, and even then, not sure you'd take it down before DT (and it's shields fully recharged)
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-02-05 10:04:20 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
Resistance and hitpoint figures for the LEVIATHAN (you spelled it wrong) are available with a quick google search. It is impossible to kill, short of having a fleet with dps well into the millions, and even then, not sure you'd take it down before DT (and it's shields fully recharged)


Well, if a problem can't be solved with violence, try more violence.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2013-02-05 11:19:06 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
That titan will never die becasue PL cant light cynos is highsec.


Some days it really pisses me off too

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Turelus
Utassi Security
#11 - 2013-02-05 11:48:52 UTC
Piugattuk wrote:
This has been discussed before but if they were to make the Leviathan destructible same as player ship then people can form fleets to try and bring it down it would get players used to a large fleet battle and maybe thirst for more sending some to null for more, I know the "pretty lights" was something that I liked seeing and got my interest.


First shooting an NPC static object is no way going to get you ready for a NullSec fleet, joining a NullSec alliance, getting into a ship and on coms will teach you how to fly in a NullSec fleet (really, it's not hard if you have a brain, align, warp, jump, lock x, shoot x, repeat)

Second the death of the Titan would be a HUGE event in the EVE lore, there is a thread about this in live events already.

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#12 - 2013-02-05 12:17:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Piugattuk
Turelus wrote:
Piugattuk wrote:
This has been discussed before but if they were to make the Leviathan destructible same as player ship then people can form fleets to try and bring it down it would get players used to a large fleet battle and maybe thirst for more sending some to null for more, I know the "pretty lights" was something that I liked seeing and got my interest.


First shooting an NPC static object is no way going to get you ready for a NullSec fleet, joining a NullSec alliance, getting into a ship and on coms will teach you how to fly in a NullSec fleet (really, it's not hard if you have a brain, align, warp, jump, lock x, shoot x, repeat)

Second the death of the Titan would be a HUGE event in the EVE lore, there is a thread about this in live events already.


You're absolutely 110% percent correct, except it would fimilarize you with fleet lingo and get you use to all kinds chaos, think of it this way, why does the military train with things that pop, yelling, people mocked in injury, just a training tool to get them use to the sights and sounds that's all I ment.

Gets rid of that WOW factor.
Aracimia Wolfe
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-02-05 12:19:32 UTC
In fairness so would Eve Uni. With far better affect.

Kill it with Fire!

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-02-05 12:32:04 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
Arronicus wrote:
Resistance and hitpoint figures for the LEVIATHAN (you spelled it wrong) are available with a quick google search. It is impossible to kill, short of having a fleet with dps well into the millions, and even then, not sure you'd take it down before DT (and it's shields fully recharged)


Well, if a problem can't be solved with violence, try more violence.


Space violence, best violence.

Just say'in Bear

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Turelus
Utassi Security
#15 - 2013-02-05 12:41:44 UTC
Piugattuk wrote:
Turelus wrote:
Piugattuk wrote:
This has been discussed before but if they were to make the Leviathan destructible same as player ship then people can form fleets to try and bring it down it would get players used to a large fleet battle and maybe thirst for more sending some to null for more, I know the "pretty lights" was something that I liked seeing and got my interest.


First shooting an NPC static object is no way going to get you ready for a NullSec fleet, joining a NullSec alliance, getting into a ship and on coms will teach you how to fly in a NullSec fleet (really, it's not hard if you have a brain, align, warp, jump, lock x, shoot x, repeat)

Second the death of the Titan would be a HUGE event in the EVE lore, there is a thread about this in live events already.


You're absolutely 110% percent, except it would fimilarize you with fleet lingo and get you use to all kinds chaos, think of it this way, why does the military train with things that pop, yelling, people mocked in injury, just a training tool to get them use to the sights and sounds that's all I ment.

This can all be done without shooting the Titan.
Making the case the Titan should be made shootable to train PVP pilots is not a valid one, it's just one to try and make "I want to kill a Titan without fighting a real Titan" sound more viable. (or that's how it's coming off)

If the Titan was made killable then it's going to die, the thing is EVERYONE is going to want to shoot it because it's cool and not many people are going to be there defending it and the Caldari State's control of Caldari Prime.
There is also the issue I bought up in the Live Events thread about it which is all of those who would want to defend it (who will already be out numbered by people who don't care for lore or events but just want to shoot a Titan) will most often be Caldari roleplayers or militia members who normally have bad Gallente standings or are locked in FW and will have to deal with NPC Navy forces so they can't really sit and repair the Titan.

If CCP (Falcon) ever makes it a killable ship then honestly I would rather see them remove the Static one and have a CCP actor flying the Titan, give it a full support fleet and the chance to jump out as well.
Also if you're not aware of the lore behind the Titan it's there as a deterrent for the Gallente to recapture Caldari Prime, and AFAIK under orders to bombard every Gallente city on the planet if the attack was attempted.

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#16 - 2013-02-05 12:43:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Piugattuk
Aracimia Wolfe wrote:
In fairness so would Eve Uni. With far better affect.


Possibly, but eve uni doesn't accept just anybody, say in my case most of my time in eve has been solo, so I've become used to my own way of doing things plus some of my standings wouldn't allow me to join eve uni.
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#17 - 2013-02-05 12:48:45 UTC
Turelus wrote:
Piugattuk wrote:
Turelus wrote:
Piugattuk wrote:
This has been discussed before but if they were to make the Leviathan destructible same as player ship then people can form fleets to try and bring it down it would get players used to a large fleet battle and maybe thirst for more sending some to null for more, I know the "pretty lights" was something that I liked seeing and got my interest.


First shooting an NPC static object is no way going to get you ready for a NullSec fleet, joining a NullSec alliance, getting into a ship and on coms will teach you how to fly in a NullSec fleet (really, it's not hard if you have a brain, align, warp, jump, lock x, shoot x, repeat)

Second the death of the Titan would be a HUGE event in the EVE lore, there is a thread about this in live events already.


You're absolutely 110% percent, except it would fimilarize you with fleet lingo and get you use to all kinds chaos, think of it this way, why does the military train with things that pop, yelling, people mocked in injury, just a training tool to get them use to the sights and sounds that's all I ment.

This can all be done without shooting the Titan.
Making the case the Titan should be made shootable to train PVP pilots is not a valid one, it's just one to try and make "I want to kill a Titan without fighting a real Titan" sound more viable. (or that's how it's coming off)

If the Titan was made killable then it's going to die, the thing is EVERYONE is going to want to shoot it because it's cool and not many people are going to be there defending it and the Caldari State's control of Caldari Prime.
There is also the issue I bought up in the Live Events thread about it which is all of those who would want to defend it (who will already be out numbered by people who don't care for lore or events but just want to shoot a Titan) will most often be Caldari roleplayers or militia members who normally have bad Gallente standings or are locked in FW and will have to deal with NPC Navy forces so they can't really sit and repair the Titan.

If CCP (Falcon) ever makes it a killable ship then honestly I would rather see them remove the Static one and have a CCP actor flying the Titan, give it a full support fleet and the chance to jump out as well.
Also if you're not aware of the lore behind the Titan it's there as a deterrent for the Gallente to recapture Caldari Prime, and AFAIK under orders to bombard every Gallente city on the planet if the attack was attempted.


Right, changes would have to be made to NPC but is that so bad to have a mock battle with NPC's, I'm aware of the lore behind the Titan just saying it could be a viable addition to the eve universe.
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#18 - 2013-02-05 12:51:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Piugattuk
BTW, they are building an NPC station there, so they are doing something with it.

Sure surprised me when I got blown up didn't see that coming. Big smile
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#19 - 2013-02-05 12:53:29 UTC
They did not attack me before I got closer than 2500m to one of the ships.

Remove standings and insurance.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#20 - 2013-02-05 13:09:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Pak Narhoo
Arronicus wrote:
Resistance and hitpoint figures for the LEVIATHAN (you spelled it wrong) are available with a quick google search. It is impossible to kill, short of having a fleet with dps well into the millions, and even then, not sure you'd take it down before DT (and it's shields fully recharged)


Back then it was possible (to kill, dev acknowledged that). Problem is every time you try, some jokers show up and start repping it.
Hey, I do have better things to do. Bear
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